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    Thumbs up Scotland reject the Swedish Model

    Apparently , MSPs actually took cognaissance of what women in prostitution wanted .

    Who'd think that was a revolutionary approach ?



    It hasn't been finalised yet but at this stage it looks like our Celtic cousins have taken the appropriate route .....


    http://m.stv.tv/news/scotland/318252...rchase-of-sex/

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-...itics-32443809
    Last edited by milkman; 24-04-15 at 14:04.

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    Very good to hear and let the fight for the right for consent continue!

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    Despite the usual cliched street worker pics accompanying these news items, this is a very welcome development and a third kick in the teeth for Rhoda Grant who can't seem to recognise when to give up.

    Grant, Benson, Charlton and anyone with any basic knowledge of local sex work knows that most of the crap they're feeding the public is nonsense. And just to prove it, an undercover sex worker visited Ruhama recently to see how they 'help' sex workers in practical terms.

    The full article is here:

    https://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/.../slim-and-nun/

    but this passage is interesting:

    ''What struck me the most, however, was that Crowley (Ruhama) clearly understands the reality of sex work quite well, despite Ruhama’s promotion of nonsensical “pimp” and “exploitation” mythology; she understands touring and advertising, recognizes that independent girls outnumber those with managers (“traffickers”) and even gets that most clients are very decent.''

    Seems that smell of bullshit surrounding the TORL campaign is even stronger than we thought.
    2014 in Northern Ireland:

    Number of reported attacks on sex workers 70

    Number of sex trafficking cases ZERO

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    Common sense at last!
    Ride them on the beaches!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidontour View Post
    Despite the usual cliched street worker pics accompanying these news items, this is a very welcome development and a third kick in the teeth for Rhoda Grant who can't seem to recognise when to give up.

    Grant, Benson, Charlton and anyone with any basic knowledge of local sex work knows that most of the crap they're feeding the public is nonsense. And just to prove it, an undercover sex worker visited Ruhama recently to see how they 'help' sex workers in practical terms.

    The full article is here:

    https://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/.../slim-and-nun/

    but this passage is interesting:

    ''What struck me the most, however, was that Crowley (Ruhama) clearly understands the reality of sex work quite well, despite Ruhama’s promotion of nonsensical “pimp” and “exploitation” mythology; she understands touring and advertising, recognizes that independent girls outnumber those with managers (“traffickers”) and even gets that most clients are very decent.''

    Seems that smell of bullshit surrounding the TORL campaign is even stronger than we thought.
    Unfortunately, the whole madness is not about sex workers' rights, it's about punishing sex workers, criminalizing working class clients and of course, most importantly, the coupla pound for some prominent TORL groups!
    Ride them on the beaches!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidontour View Post
    Despite the usual cliched street worker pics accompanying these news items, this is a very welcome development and a third kick in the teeth for Rhoda Grant who can't seem to recognise when to give up.

    Grant, Benson, Charlton and anyone with any basic knowledge of local sex work knows that most of the crap they're feeding the public is nonsense. And just to prove it, an undercover sex worker visited Ruhama recently to see how they 'help' sex workers in practical terms.

    The full article is here:

    https://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/.../slim-and-nun/

    but this passage is interesting:

    ''What struck me the most, however, was that Crowley (Ruhama) clearly understands the reality of sex work quite well, despite Ruhama’s promotion of nonsensical “pimp” and “exploitation” mythology; she understands touring and advertising, recognizes that independent girls outnumber those with managers (“traffickers”) and even gets that most clients are very decent.''

    Seems that smell of bullshit surrounding the TORL campaign is even stronger than we thought.
    Comment under the article,

    "It was Ruhama, if I remember correctly, who published their income/expenditure in an annual report. It stated something like an income of €601,000; administrative expenditure was €599,000. Doesn’t leave much over for support."

    How is it legal to accept money and use it on admin to that extend?
    Why are the funders not asking questions.
    Usually money has to be shown to have been spent according to the purpose for which it was given.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJosephine View Post
    Comment under the article,

    "It was Ruhama, if I remember correctly, who published their income/expenditure in an annual report. It stated something like an income of €601,000; administrative expenditure was €599,000. Doesn’t leave much over for support."

    How is it legal to accept money and use it on admin to that extend?
    Why are the funders not asking questions.
    Usually money has to be shown to have been spent according to the purpose for which it was given.
    Much of Ruhama's focus is currently on 'raising awareness', such as the current pile of bollocks ''We don't buy it'' campaign. Therefore much of the admin costs can be justified with this type of crap which they themselves know is nonsense. Add to that a few back slapping junkets abroad and the cost of recruiting staff, many of whom are cynically unpaid (while the CEO trousers a small fortune).

    The actual numbers genuinely seeking Ruhama's help are very small and as has been proved recently, those who do ask recieve little or no support. If however they can get the Swedish model introduced, their potential pool of 'rescue cases' is likely to increase, justifying further funding and increased influence as the 'saviours' of 'fallen women'.

    The fact that the Irish public and in particular the Irish government are pandering to a nun-centric group with a very recent history of appalling abuse really does beggar belief. But then when we look at certain political parties continuing to gain electoral ground north and south despite appalling pasts, perhaps we can understand a little better. Apparently the past is a different country to many people.
    Last edited by Davidontour; 25-04-15 at 23:59.
    2014 in Northern Ireland:

    Number of reported attacks on sex workers 70

    Number of sex trafficking cases ZERO

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    Great news in Scotland.

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