Alcohol abuse

[Lucy Chambers]

Jesus Lucy, you weren't kidding, that was dark. I didn't see any light in it.

There is always light, as long as there is hope. At the very least it puts paid to the idea people are merrily drinking themselves to death. I do agree though. Dark. I cried buckets. Rip, Nigel, Toni. And sadly...Vanda. She died last year.

[Lucy Chambers]

I think like any addiction there are emotional issues at play. I would never slag someone off for being overweight. And I think people that do need to have a very hard look at themselves.

Do you drink, smoke use drugs etc or have an anotherwise addictive personally?

Smoking, I don't believe is an emotionally based addiction, just an addiction and dirty & very hard to give up.

After I drink for a few days straight. I have a very severe come down, and I always swear to myself I will never do it again. My mind is clear.

But then I feel good again and my mind becomes cloudy & I forget all the negative consequences of drinking and before I know it there I am again.

Hiya chick...


You don't really need to hear me going on about your situation. That's too trite. All i can say is if you think there is a single chance that might be in your future put down that drink and pick up the phone. Start with AA and if that doesn't work then don't give up, try the other organisations. Whatever you do though, please don't stop trying.

[simon2280]

Hiya chick...


You don't really need to hear me going on about your situation. That's too trite. All i can say is if you think there is a single chance that might be in your future put down that drink and pick up the phone. Start with AA and if that doesn't work then don't give up, try the other organisations. Whatever you do though, please don't stop trying.

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Lucy Chambers,
Your spot on with the above approach, Thankfully the options for dealing with unhealthy activities are now available to any individual that is prepared to go to any lengths to help themselves. The most effective it seems, are groups of ex-addicts who have programmes that lead the addict's thinking and activity away from the unhealthy, Self destructive, towards Life Positive.
As is blatantly obvious now to a growing number of us, any addictive substance can be highly toxic to our individual chemistry.
Legal Proabition, as a method of changing People's Activities, is Counter Productive in the Long Term as human history shows.
Education on how to be Life Positive and Self Responsible is Effective as you are aware Lucy

[nonpareil]

Hello


Long time since I last made a thread, so bear with me. I stumbled across this video the other day, my mission is to share it where possible as its affected the way I view alcohol, and indeed alcoholics profoundly. Here it is...


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lwv7Utcf-gM


It's a bit dark but there is light too. If anyone has some spare time or interest give it a watch.

Thank you!

L x

Alcoholism is a disease for some.
I believe it likely that alcoholism has a major genetic component.
I personally knew a father and son , both alcoholic.
Anne Best, mother to George, teetotal 'til 44, dead at 54 an alcoholic, from heart condition probably related to drinking.
This means some people will be more susceptible than others.
l personally drank sometimes to my own detriment, but never developed a dependence on it and at this stage have little interest in it .
My drinking was usually boredom and idle hands.I have no family history of alcoholism though (chronic intractable depression, yes, which has luckily passed me by).
That said depression is a likely trigger for excessive drinking, smoking, drug taking.
Then we have the addictive type of personality. If you are 1 of these you need to be careful with many things from drugs to gambling to whatever.
You need to know your own soul and what to avoid.Moderation in all things and in all things moderation.
Alcohol is ingrained in society since Egypt I began brewing beer 4 and whatever thousand years ago so banning it is a non- starter.US prohibition played into the hands of the mafia.
And this is nothing new
In1700's England there was the gin "scourge".
In 1800's Ireland , Father Matthew and the temperance movement.
It has always been with us and always will be.
One of the biggest things has to be personal responsibility and knowing your own limits.
That said there will always be some who fall by the wayside-c'est la vie.
And castigating Diageo for its "Arthur's day " was a load of hoo- ha,
They weren't putting a gun to your head and making you buy it.
Know your own weaknesses /susceptibilities and if necessary practise self control.
And for us Westerners life can be bloody marvellous even without substances to abuse.

[simon2280]

Ok! nonpareil,

Ok now admit it, you are addicted to the lovely ladies, understandable with the standards set by the Ladies,
Out with it, is it Lucy C or dare I mention her Royal Highin Ass, Rachel. D

[nonpareil]

Ok! nonpareil,

Ok now admit it, you are addicted to the lovely ladies, understandable with the standards set by the Ladies,
Out with it, is it Lucy C or dare I mention her Royal Highin Ass, Rachel. D

Yes indeed
I like Tom Sand am addicted to the lovely Rachel (and Lucy C. ).
Unfortunately my feelings are unrequited.

[doodlebug]

The great contradiction in these debates is that society has decided one drug which causes untold physical and mental damage is legal while others that tend to only harm an individual is illegal. Most of the damage done by "drug addicts" is to themselves and then collateral damage to society as they try to feed their habit, however because we have chosen to permit alcohol the damage is rarely spoken of, and tends to be of a more widespread nature. I am not advocating that we ban alcohol, merely that we have a mature look at the cost and affect alcohol has on our society. I remember a frightening statistic that alcohol is the largest cause of admissions to the irish health service and causes several thousand deaths a year. We have road safety campaigns when 300 plus people are killed annually yet nothing on the same scale about alcohol. I personally believe that regulation and legalisation is the answer, then business gets involved the control can be tighter, and in the case of "illegal" drugs the gangland element would not exist therefore benefitting society.

[simon2280]

The great contradiction in these debates is that society has decided one drug which causes untold physical and mental damage is legal while others that tend to only harm an individual is illegal. Most of the damage done by "drug addicts" is to themselves and then collateral damage to society as they try to feed their habit, however because we have chosen to permit alcohol the damage is rarely spoken of, and tends to be of a more widespread nature. I am not advocating that we ban alcohol, merely that we have a mature look at the cost and affect alcohol has on our society. I remember a frightening statistic that alcohol is the largest cause of admissions to the irish health service and causes several thousand deaths a year. We have road safety campaigns when 300 plus people are killed annually yet nothing on the same scale about alcohol. I personally believe that regulation and legalisation is the answer, then business gets involved the control can be tighter, and in the case of "illegal" drugs the gangland element would not exist therefore benefitting society.

What sells Newspapers! "Bad News" At the Moment it's Drug Crimes and Related Deaths Due to Overdoses, Car Crashes and Related Injuries and Death and now we have twisted Stories About Sex Work and in particular Escorts.
You are correct in highlighting Lack of Warnings about the Negative Side Effects of Alcohol on some individuals. In comparison to Drug Misuse and Car Mishaps, Funding Priority is Kept Low by Government and Drinks Industry . Many people are asking Why! Hah, Pass a good many of these same People a free pint or bottle of Brandy, Whiskey, Bottle of Wine and they will give plenty B/S reasons. The majority of Ireland's Population love Booze More than they love Ireland, Still.

[Gobshite]

It's the brewery's that make the money. Most pubs barely make ends meet or they make their money from food. The brewery's and the people that actually make the alcohol should be contributing, but again, not at the expense of the publican's.

And the government duties and taxes. It also keeps A and E busy, paying doctors etc, and the you can take thiamine for your liver, if you decide not to give up drinking.

[Jiberjabber]

There is always light, as long as there is hope. At the very least it puts paid to the idea people are merrily drinking themselves to death. I do agree though. Dark. I cried buckets. Rip, Nigel, Toni. And sadly...Vanda. She died last year.

I see what you mean. It's far from the romanticized notion of a Dean Martin merrily drinking himself into oblivion. I don't know though, it might be too raw for the masses.