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    Quote Originally Posted by warmcome View Post
    Viagra is supported by the chemist network and lots of instructions with it. Prescription is required in ROI.
    I meant amongst the illegal drugs, heroin has a delicate 'dose window' (easy to overdose).
    But you can buy it online with no sanctions. Too much of anything is a bad thing. You can drown from over-drinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samlad View Post
    But you can buy it online with no sanctions.
    Get off that Dark Net, Sam.

    You mean Viagra of course. I have used it and won't now. Side effects are hot (unhelpful)
    and headache, feel old next day etc

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    Even if we say or believe heroin users are dirty, thieving, evil, vermin, scum who should never
    be supported and instead sabotaged?

    Still out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warmcome View Post
    Even if we say heroin users are dirty, thieving, evil, vermin, scum who should never
    be supported and instead sabotaged?

    Still out there.
    My uncle once stole from our electric metre to support his smoking and drinking habit. A lot of people can afford their habits, heroine, whizz, charlie, fags, drink or whatever, but if they have an addiction (even pay-per-view porn, sex chat, gambling), people will go to any lengths to supply their addiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samlad View Post
    My uncle once stole from our electric metre to support his smoking and drinking habit. A lot of people can afford their habits, heroine, whizz, charlie, fags, drink or whatever, but if they have an addiction (even pay-per-view porn, sex chat, gambling), people will go to any lengths to supply their addiction.
    I don't seek to minimize any of the illegal drugs or any drug in fact. I just perceive a mess.
    Were on the back foot with the drug situation and I would like to explore other models that
    would work better:


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    Quote Originally Posted by warmcome View Post
    I don't seek to minimize any of the illegal drugs or any drug in fact. I just perceive a mess.
    Were on the back foot with the drug situation and I would like to explore other models that
    would work better:

    I don't intend to watch the video, sorry, but how would you handle drug laws if you had the power to change them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by samlad View Post
    I don't intend to watch the video, sorry, but how would you handle drug laws if you had the power to change them?
    Firstly, I would decriminalize Cannabis. This is a soft drug and it would satisfy most of the drug
    market, were it freely available. (Dutch nationals have the lowest consumption of drugs in Europe)
    It would take time to regulate this area and legalize it. Drug education and no advertising.

    I would provide clean heroin to those prescribed by their GP. The drug has to be administered
    in the facility, protecting society from used needles.

    Wait and see how that went down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warmcome View Post
    Firstly, I would decriminalize Cannabis. This is a soft drug and it would satisfy most of the drug
    market, were it freely available. (Dutch nationals have the lowest consumption of drugs in Europe)
    It would take time to regulate this area and legalize it. Drug education and no advertising.

    I would provide clean heroin to those prescribed by their GP. The drug has to be administered
    in the facility, protecting society from used needles.

    Wait and see how that went down.
    "Wait and see how that went down."

    The words of every politician implementing a new law. I expected you would decriminalise marijuana but once the novelty wears of and that becomes 'the norm' and then people would start looking for something 'more taboo' that is manufactured on the black market, how would you tackle that? A lot of people smoke weed because it's naughty to do so. Drug education is widespread in the UK already, but it doesn't stop people from doing drugs.

    As for heroine, doctors already offer medical alternatives to help wean addicts off it, but it doesn't solve the problem in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samlad View Post
    "Wait and see how that went down."

    The words of every politician implementing a new law. I expected you would decriminalise marijuana but once the novelty wears of and that becomes 'the norm' and then people would start looking for something 'more taboo' that is manufactured on the black market, how would you tackle that? A lot of people smoke weed because it's naughty to do so. Drug education is widespread in the UK already, but it doesn't stop people from doing drugs.

    As for heroine, doctors already offer medical alternatives to help wean addicts off it, but it doesn't solve the problem in the first place.
    I don't say problem but situation. Is the drug education realistic or is it: NO? I agree that illicitness is attractive,
    what rebellious cohort are most at risk from the current scenario?

    We have a bad drug model (could it be more out of control)
    I think we can afford to move things around a bit.
    The success of Cannabis in Colorado (Taxes) is interesting to Theresa May etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by warmcome View Post
    I don't say problem but situation. Is the drug education realistic or is it: NO? I agree that illicitness is attractive,
    what rebellious cohort are most at risk from the current scenario?

    We have a bad drug model (could it be more out of control)
    I think we can afford to move things around a bit.
    The success of Cannabis in Colorado (Taxes) is interesting to Theresa May etc
    I disagree that the legalisation of selling cannabis is a 'success'. Although the rates of marijuana use have dramatically dropped in Colorado, the rate of fatal motor vehicle accidents of people under the influence of the drug has significantly increased, thought to be caused because of its easy availability and marketing:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsul...ike-a-bargain/
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