Calls to speed up introduction of 'Purchase of sex legislation'

[whoseyourdaddy]

Kevin Myers wrote a reasoned piece in the Sunday Times today supporting Kate McGrew and criticising the NCWI for attempting to link violence against women with sex work.

Sorry don't know how to provide link but worth a read.

[The Libertarian]

It's very much as expected, no doubt they can't wait for the money that will spring from the state to 'assist' them to 'help repentant fallen women'! Their previous incarnation, well it's the same 2 orders behind both, used to get state subventions also when women were enslaved in the Magdylene concentration camps, they ran and of course in that case, they were also able to benefit from the slave labour of the women illegally incarcerated in them! And of course many dollars were made from trafficking new born babies to The States from those ladies and ladies in mother and baby homes!
Also please remember that some women were in these institutions as a result of rape and incest! and of course there was a direct feeder line into them from orphanages and of course some women got pregnant in them, where the only male contact, they would really have had apart from insane doctors, were insane priests!
Also they are really trying to subliminate trafficking and purchasing sexual services as the same thing into the public consciousness!
Oddly, I didn't see any RTE report on the wonderful SWAI press conference and call for some humanity to be introduced into the debate!

[Davidontour]

Confirmation today of the number of human trafficking victims found in NI last year:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-31254686

In total 45 victims were rescued. Four of these were subjected to sexual exploitation. None were involved in prostitution.

Perhaps as TORL & Ruhama apparently read the EI forums, they could explain to us how these figures correspond with their campaign?

[abcodiver]

Am I right in saying that this legislation is an unstoppable train, I presume there is no going back now??

We just have to wait for the dust to settle maybe

[Davidontour]

Am I right in saying that this legislation is an unstoppable train, I presume there is no going back now??

We just have to wait for the dust to settle maybe

In the south, this legislation hasn't been voted on yet. If TDs bother to check the facts on coercive trafficking in Ireland, examine the lack of success of the Swedish Model and look at how Westminster voted last October, this will be dismissed out of hand.

Unfortunately that would require our TDs to have thought processes, honesty and courage. Probably best not to hold your breath.

[SteveB]

David Ford, the North's Justice Minister, accused the SDLP of talking 'nonsense' about abortion.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-31193557


Unfortunately, he, or no-one else, has had the courage to speak so plainly about Morrow's bill. In fact, it has been the self-same David Ford who has come closest to criticising, merely saying he had "reservations" about the bill. Under pressure, he just caved in.

Until 2013, David Ford was an elder in the Second Donegore congregation of the Presbyterian Church in Ireland. He was forced to retire from active duties as an elder over differences with fellow Presbyterians because of his support for gay marriage. I am suspicious that his "reservations" about the bill may have been overcome by similar pressure.

I have no doubt similar "reservations" are held by many politicians in the South, but they too, lack the courage to face down intimidation.

[Davidontour]

In fairness to David Ford, he did oppose clause 6 (now clause 15) of Morrow's bill and his party (Alliance) voted against it. They in fact made up 7 of the 10 'no' votes.

Ford also commissioned the QUB report into NI sex work, a study which is much more realistic and factual than the nonsense put forward by the likes of TORL, Ruhama and the DUP. As a result it was dismissed by all three, as facts can be dangerous when it comes to a moral crusade.

The sad fact is that there no votes to be gained by supporting what is right in this case, so credit is due to the few independents plus Shatter and Norris, who have denounced this hopelessly flawed legislation.