Irish Independent

[willie wacker]

I am talking about visas and border control.

No visa,s and open the border to everyone ?

[Rachel Divine]

What is then??
Going down the road of Sweden is going to be a disaster !! and will not stop humantrafficking

Have to quote you again on this one, sorry.

Marked in red, are you implying there is human trafficking going on at the moment and even under the Swedish model it will not stop?

[tom sand]

I do not agree. While it seems a good theory it is not practical.

Hi Rachel
what do you think will happen when the law to criminalize the buyers of sex comes in to law ?

[willie wacker]

Have to quote you again on this one, sorry.

Marked in red, are you implying there is human trafficking going on at the moment and even under the Swedish model it will not stop?

I do believe there is and no the Swedish model will not stop it

[Rachel Divine]

No visa,s and open the border to everyone ?

Work permit. Once the profile it is up, the escort should report to the gardai where she is staying, with who she is sharing, health check up on date, where the money goes ... etc.

I am not a fan of those ladies supporting their boyfriends, probably I am in the wrong tho and should be each to their own, but I stand for what I believe and that's not what I would do nor I support ( repeating myself I know).

[Rachel Divine]

Hi Rachel
what do you think will happen when the law to criminalize the buyers of sex comes in to law ?

I don't know.
Surely many guys will panic and stop for a while.
It is hard to have a good , exact idea at the moment.

I do believe there is and no the Swedish model will not stop it

Define human trafficking please.

[willie wacker]

Work permit. Once the profile it is up, the escort should report to the gardai where she is staying, with who she is sharing, health check up on date, where the money goes ... etc.

I am not a fan of those ladies supporting their boyfriends, probably I am in the wrong tho and should be each to their own, but I stand for what I believe and that's not what I would do nor I support ( repeating myself I know).

I agree with you there.
I think escorts should be allowed to register as a small business/selfemployed and be under the protection of the law.
And let 2 ladies be registered together or set up a business together

[willie wacker]

I don't know.
Surely many guys will panic and stop for a while.
It is hard to have a good , exact idea at the moment.


Define human trafficking please.

The trade of humans for slavery ,sex slavery and forced labour. A short version

[tom sand]

Well if we kept tighter controls on visa,s for people outside of EU and borders, we might have a better chance of stopping human trafficking, criminalising paying for sex will only drive it underground and in to the hands of criminals.
That,s what I believe he was implying and that,s what I believe will happen

i agree willie
its going to make the hole thing worse
but i think it will do one thing for the people that believe in this law
it will make this market very small........... clients and escorts will get less and less for how long i don't know

[Rachel Divine]

The trade of humans for slavery ,sex slavery and forced labour. A short version

And you are wrong. The girls give their money willing as well as they work as escorts willing. Did not hear or read about maintained lover boys/ boyfriends ?!

If there is a very small % of human trafficking and I say if, it is because I haven't witnessed such thing, under no law it will stop.