How to stop trafficking?

[HairyPotter]

She might not be her boss, maybe just a friend that is also working in Ireland and can speak English. You just don't know.

Then her friend would actually become her secretary.

[funlover12]

Ah, you mean coercion. In the eyes of the law, trafficking is just transporting someone from one place to another for the purpose of prostitution, whether they are in control or not. Like, if I was nice and bought a plane ticket for an escort, I would be a trafficker, even if I had no other involvement in what she does. This is the misconception that the Irish government and the likes of Ruhama (the 'rescue agency') are trying to reinforce.

It's like calling someone who gives their friend a joint for a couple of euros a 'drug baron'.

Its not actually that way in ireland but for england though yes, I mean the irish law definition of trafficking is not the same as the english, just cause torl say the definition of trafficking is the same (not literally but by the way they go on they believe it is/purposefully want to muddy the waters) as england the reality is that by LAW (you know the stuff that actually matters) it isnt, Im referring to 'the movement of people'

[hunterhilman]

Reallistcaly most clients must realise that majority of ladies working at 50-60 euro rates are working for an agency. with a very few exceptions. so out of that they be lucky to keep 25 - 30 euro. thats simply it. its up to every1 to decide if there comfortable with that an visit or dont accordingly.

That is not necessarily true, I actually knew quite a few ladies in this price range that were working for themselves, true independents, they worked for themselves alone, the reason they charge this amount would be to compete with the more established escorts and get established themselves and build up reviews etc, start low and work your way up, once they built up a good reputation they increased their rates accordingly and there are even escorts on here today that have done it this way.

[space haze]

I for one am sad to see that the new laws coming in will make it illegal to purchase escort services. But I am happy that maybe they will help out girls who have been trafficked into country. I realise that we can never really know who has been a victim of this?? What does everyone think?

it will never cease while there is monetary gains to be made ...
sadly

[Empirical]

Not strange at all darling! some girls was working before in other countries for example Spain . There are clubs where many girls working being escorts they become friends ... later one girl go in Ireland and start working and talk on facebook with her friend from Spain and tell her how nice are guys here and work is more relaxed u stay home not on the heels all night long. then of course her friend show her interest to come in ireland if its better... but she dont speak english.. then her friend say : no problem u are my friend i will help u because i speak english i can answer at your phone if u want and in time u will learn english. This sound like friend is her boss? , .No... she just help her. If i go in Germany to my other escort friend i dont speak german if she will help me answering for me at phone this not make her my pimp. We escorts travel all over the world but we dont speak all languages so sometimes a litlle help is good if u have a friend who can help with language barrier

That I have certainly experienced.

[Davidontour]

Here's an interesting article....

http://www.thejournal.ie/diarmuid-ma...59908-Jan2015/

I wonder if anyone pushing for the introduction of Swedish-style Legislation put the Archbishop up to making such an announcement.

(The comments section of the above article also make for interesting reading)

Particularly liked this comment:

''Hypocrisy of the highest order. Equivalent of Gary Glitter suggesting a clampdown on paedos.''

[xagerate]

Reallistcaly most clients must realise that majority of ladies working at 50-60 euro rates are working for an agency. with a very few exceptions. so out of that they be lucky to keep 25 - 30 euro. thats simply it. its up to every1 to decide if there comfortable with that an visit or dont accordingly.

That has always been my assumption.
You can also notice when suddenly a group of ladies seem to descend on one area at the same time,none of whom as far as I can see are forum posters,and none of whom allow reviews.
Often they list numerous favourites and the stated rates are generally low like the quoted poster mentions.

They could narrow down who is trafficked or pimped very easily if that was the sole purpose for the new legislation the government assumes will place a hailo over their (Ivory towered)heads.

[Davidontour]

That has always been my assumption.
You can also notice when suddenly a group of ladies seem to descend on one area at the same time,none of whom as far as I can see are forum posters,and none of whom allow reviews.
Often they list numerous favourites and the stated rates are generally low like the quoted poster mentions.

They could narrow down who is trafficked or pimped very easily if that was the sole purpose for the new legislation the government assumes will place a hailo over their (Ivory towered)heads.

They certainly could but this legislation is about moral disapproval of sex work. At least the Swedish and Canadian governments had the balls to admit that.

[hunterhilman]

The Bill will become law this year and its not popular with us but scores points for the government.
If this was to be put to a public vote in Ireland the vast majority of people would vote for it and we all know it.

[Davidontour]

The Bill will become law this year and its not popular with us but scores points for the government.
If this was to be put to a public vote in Ireland the vast majority of people would vote for it and we all know it.

Not if they were allowed to know the facts. One of which is that the total number of convictions for sex trafficking in Ireland last year was one.