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    Quote Originally Posted by xagerate View Post
    Summary of the last 49 posts wanted please...............
    Am I sticking with the diesel runabout or can I go Audi RS4 shopping again?

    Buy a Lada. And start learning Russian.

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    I'm currently drilling for oil in my back yard. This time next year I'll be a billionaire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunterhilman View Post
    Petrol at the pump in the north was 1.33 a ltr now down to 1.12 in places at present so that's a lot
    Indeed; and if you shop at Tesco, you can get money off—I'm currently on 12p off. Long time since it was so cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiberjabber View Post
    Consider this line taken from the Wikipedia article on Pussy Riot.



    To listen to the western outlets you would swear Pussy Riot were martyrs rather than the attention-seeking vandals of church property that they are generally perceived to be in Russia. The overwhelming majority of Russians found their actions reprehensible, sacrilegious and a host of other negative adjectives.

    I find it odd the hostility in the west directed towards Putin, considering a lot of his policy decisions are a reflection of the Russian electorate and his objective is a strengthening of his people's homeland, a resurgent Mother Russia. I'm not saying I like the guy, I don't. We seem to forget that it was the voters who put him in power and he is in no small part a reflection of those people. The anti-gay legislations had been creeping in across the Russian Federation for a while already at a state level without Putin's input. In a 2013 poll it was found that 85% of Russians were against same sex marriage, 5% for. What democratically elected leader in the west would go against that kind of public mandate? There is a strongly traditional and religious element to Russian society that was long suppressed under the communist totalitarian regime. Couple this with near two decades of American and European encroachment on Russian regional interests (rocket domes in Poland ffs) and its no wonder the fire has been stoked so well. Putin is playing to this, and why not. I also think it's very premature to be speculating that the Russian public are turning against him. Wishful thinking I suspect.

    Then there's this.



    That's a map of world poverty according to the CIA ( yup, THAT CIA). There are interesting statistics out there, including the Human Development Index and figures from the world bank, which show poverty percentages when comparing the Russian and American population to be equivalent.

    I believe there's a selective myopia at play when it comes to discussing Russia.

    Just to be clear, I'm in no way condoning sexual discrimination.

    That post would wet your knickers, well said

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiberjabber View Post
    Consider this line taken from the Wikipedia article on Pussy Riot.
    How very selective you are with your quote lol !

    I just read through the same article. You've quoted the one single sentence that seems unfavorable , but even that simply

    said that they are perceived to be such and such sacrilegious etc.

    How about this snippet ! >>

    "In Russia feminism is seen as something "that could destroy Russia" as said by Kirill, the head of the Russian Orthodox Church.[45] Pussy Riot are important to the feminist movement and showcase that post-feminism has not been achieved."

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pussy_Riot


    *im just having a bit of fun xx

    Quote Originally Posted by JJ
    To listen to the western outlets you would swear Pussy Riot were martyrs rather than the attention-seeking vandals of church property that they are generally perceived to be in Russia. The overwhelming majority of Russians found their actions reprehensible, sacrilegious and a host of other negative adjectives.

    On February 21, 2012, as part of a protest movement against the re-election of Vladimir Putin,five women from the group entered the Cathedral of Christ the Savior of the Russian Orthodox Church in Moscow. There was no church service in session at the time, and only a few people were in the cathedral.[61] Removing their winter clothes, they put on colorful balaclavas, walked up the steps leading to the altar, and began to jump around, punching the air.[62] After less than a minute, they were escorted outside the building by guards.[63] Film of the performance was later combined with footage shot at a different church,[64] identified by Russian Orthodox Church spokesman Vsevolod Chaplin as the Epiphany Cathedral in Yelokhovo,[65] to create a video clip for the song, which they entitled "Punk Prayer: Mother of God Drive Putin Away".[6]

    Quote Originally Posted by JJ
    I find it odd the hostility in the west directed towards Putin, considering a lot of his policy decisions are a reflection of the Russian electorate and his objective is a strengthening of his people's homeland, a resurgent Mother Russia. I'm not saying I like the guy, I don't. We seem to forget that it was the voters who put him in power and he is in no small part a reflection of those people. The anti-gay legislations had been creeping in across the Russian Federation for a while already at a state level without Putin's input. In a 2013 poll it was found that 85% of Russians were against same sex marriage, 5% for. What democratically elected leader in the west would go against that kind of public mandate? There is a strongly traditional and religious element to Russian society that was long suppressed under the communist totalitarian regime. Couple this with near two decades of American and European encroachment on Russian regional interests (rocket domes in Poland ffs) and its no wonder the fire has been stoked so well. Putin is playing to this, and why not. I also think it's very premature to be speculating that the Russian public are turning against him. Wishful thinking I suspect.
    See , I have no like nor dislike for the guy. He actually strikes quite a handsome pose half naked on a horse's back lol !!

    I don't care for his tactics. Intimidation and strong arm politics. Forcefully eliminating any and all opposition ,

    assassinating dissenters even on foreign land , etc.

    I think it is rather naive to think 'it was the voters who put him there'.

    I don't think you're this naive , I think you're just making interesting conversation xx

    Quote Originally Posted by JJ
    Then there's this.



    That's a map of world poverty according to the CIA ( yup, THAT CIA). There are interesting statistics out there, including the Human Development Index and figures from the world bank, which show poverty percentages when comparing the Russian and American population to be equivalent.

    I believe there's a selective myopia at play when it comes to discussing Russia.

    Just to be clear, I'm in no way condoning sexual discrimination.
    Is that the only Putin policy you do not condone ?



    As to the graph -- it's pretty. Has nice colors :

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    Never that impressed with Pussy Riot, I considered them to be a bunch of lesbyankas acting the maggot. But sending them to max security prisons for a few years was somewhat of an over reaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dob View Post
    Never that impressed with Pussy Riot, I considered them to be a bunch of lesbyankas acting the maggot. But sending them to max security prisons for a few years was somewhat of an over reaction.
    I'm not all that impressed with them either -- musically x

    I cited them as an example of oppression.

    But , btw , how many other protesters and dissenters does the public ever hear of ?

    None , even though there're plenty behind bars .

    In that respect , Pussy Riot is a success , having been annoying enough to be reckoned with.


    "Death to Prison, Freedom to Protests"

    On December 14, 2011, the group performed atop a garage beside the Moscow Detention Center No. 1 prison, where opposition activists were being held among the prisoners. Political activists Alexey Navalny and Ilya Yashin had been arrested one week earlier at a mass protest against the results of the State Duma elections.[55]
    I do what I want. I cannot do otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiberjabber View Post
    Consider this line taken from the Wikipedia article on Pussy Riot.

    Pussy Riot's LGBT rights advocacy is seen in a negative light by conservative Russians; according to a Levada poll published in 2010, 74% of Russians view homosexuality as a "moral perversion" or "mental illness"

    To listen to the western outlets you would swear Pussy Riot were martyrs rather than the attention-seeking vandals of church property that they are generally perceived to be in Russia. The overwhelming majority of Russians found their actions reprehensible, sacrilegious and a host of other negative adjectives.
    .
    Doh.

    Just re read your post.

    I attributed your words to the Wiki quote.

    Once I quoted you , your own Wiki quote was no longer there ...
    I do what I want. I cannot do otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabel taylor View Post
    Do you see the Americans and eu supporting rebels taken down a democratically elected government in order to get o Ukraine resources and closer military bases to Russian border as correct? Do you see them bending the rules and creating propaganda as the will ok

    Do you disagree the last 20years of wars where there oil and resources political agenda the Americans are involved

    Do you disagree the Eu is land hungry in order to create a superstate, having countries now become states answering to eu
    I bet Hitler and the rest wish the came up with that one


    But I am a cynical type,
    Ahh you are not nearly cynical enough.

    I mentioned RT (Russian State funded propaganda machine, yes kinda like the BBC etc.)which you never confirmed as your source

    But RT differs from the others in that you'll rarely if ever seen them criticise the russian government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephanie View Post
    No , not Baby Oil !! Crude :

    Fracking and pumping ; US , Saudi , Putin , Isis , Iran ...

    Oil price per barrel has been plummeting , some predict another economic meltdown ,

    others speculating on Saudi-US alliance to weaken Putin , yet others glean OPEC conspiracy

    to put our US shale fracking boys out of business by allowing price of crude to dip below profitability.

    Thoughts ?
    As someone who a. works in commodity markets and b. drives my German marque hard everywhere I go (I do over 100mph every time I get in the car) this is only good news for me. Firstly, volatility in commodity markets means investors will be jumping in and out like a cunt while I'll be cashing in like a Swiss citizen at the end of a war. Secondly, filling up my top of the range German marque will cost less, meaning I can drive it harder than ever before. Great news all round.

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