Ched Evans

[Curious k]

If Evans rings me today I will see him.

He is not a rapist in my opinion, but that is just me.

You're just acting the bollox. Now I'm not gonna lie, I had a little laugh at this reply, and I understand your sense of humour. But, it's still acting the bollox.

You should show more compassion for a victim, and even though the law isn't always right, you should have a little faith.

On another note, it's highly unlikely that he will call and book with you, mainly due to location. But it's probable that you could come into contact with a rapist, and that would be horrible, wouldn't it? And what would the media say? What did she expect, sure she was well up for it, blah, blah, blah.

[annabel taylor]

hi annebel
we dont have all the evidence and facts in this case
like the phone footage from his friends from through a window
but a jury did,and they found him to be guilty of rape

I agree, I'm just saying there a huge difference between this case, when the doubt of did she consent but too drunk t remember
To violent rapes done by Lari Murphy where he abducted his victims and violently assaulted and raped them, numerous and numerous he may be uncomvicted for, he a danger to society

But a young lad who mate said there a chick went back got a key raped a girl who had sex with his mate before where the doubt of she could have consented and been too wasted to remember,

Rape is wrong, but some responsibly is needed, and there is different levels, hence there different sentences

Ive fucked people so drunk in collage I had little or no memory off, now only a few times, but I was conscious during my blanked out hours, and if. said yes and the guy not far behind me drunk and says yes and we both dont remember can we call rape too?

[annabel taylor]

victim blaming does not absolve the perpetrator of the crime of rape a violent crime whether it takes place in an alleyway or a hotel an is commited by a good looking footballer or any one else.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...u-9870408.html

Going over this again and again is, frankly, utterly exhausting. Just when you start to think that maybe – just maybe - we’re making progress, another tired rape myth pops up on prime-time radio to remind you that we still live in a victim-blaming society. To be clear: there is nothing a person can do to cause themselves to be raped. Questioning the behaviour of the victim seeks to absolve the attacker of blame, but there aren’t varying shades of grey here. A rapist is a rapist, whether he attacks in an alleyway, a living room or a swanky hotel room. A rapist is still a rapist if he has had sex with his victim before. Going home with someone is not consent. Being drunk is not consent. Your wardrobe choices are not consent. No woman or man is to blame for the violence committed against them; there is no right or wrong way to be raped.

Not saying there a right or wrong way, but the difference in the case of someone like lari Murphy where its violent as his crimes, hence different sentences, we have no doubt that any of his victims did not consent,

I just wouldnt put ched Evans in the same category of violent criminals and the level of danger they pose to society as a whole

If I had to choose who I had to deal with over Evans or Murphy, Evans without even thinking would be my choice,

[Zoidberg]

Not saying there a right or wrong way, but the difference in the case of someone like lari Murphy where its violent as his crimes, hence different sentences, we have no doubt that any of his victims did not consent,

I just wouldnt put ched Evans in the same category of violent criminals and the level of danger they pose to society as a whole

If I had to choose who I had to deal with over Evans or Murphy, Evans without even thinking would be my choice,

OK, what about a paedo, that might of never touched a child but has a load of kiddie pictures on their computer, should we open our arms and welcome them? They have done nothing violent.

[tomlittle]

Ched Evans should he be give a second chance to play football after serving he rapist sentence.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/wom...nd-chance.html

second chance playing football for the club.no way he is a disgrace and what club would want a guy that did such a thing.

[annabel taylor]

OK, what about a paedo, that might of never touched a child but has a load of kiddie pictures on their computer, should we open our arms and welcome them? They have done nothing violent.

I'd sentence him different to man who molested a child, and to one who rapes and kills
I never said welcome Evans just I dont see his crime the same as Murphy

Like I dont see the crime of viewing child porn akin to abducting, torturing raping a child, or even grooming a child for sexual abuse and even down to the person who took the picture

Everyone is responsible but is the different levels

Sure in that case any man who buys sex is helping create a market where by trafficking occurs, and the ideals sex can be bought comes into play and it can result in trafficking and child abuse, so is any punter by some tiny margin responsible for a child been raped in the sex industry

But we know its not black and white,

Which again why most crimes are sentenced differently because in most crime there is levels

Plus in making of laws and enacted them, personal morals should never be brought in, you looks at the facts look for doubt and make a decision

[zoozoozoo]

If Evans rings me today I will see him.

He is not a rapist in my opinion, but that is just me.

Make sure you keep the windows locked and the blinds pulled and best to keep the lights off in case his mates want to film

[Kaz]

I struggle to see how some one can not get the consent of the woman first. Women should be treated with respect and not getting permission is rape.

[Meursault]

You're just acting the bollox. Now I'm not gonna lie, I had a little laugh at this reply, and I understand your sense of humour. But, it's still acting the bollox.

You should show more compassion for a victim, and even though the law isn't always right, you should have a little faith.

On another note, it's highly unlikely that he will call and book with you, mainly due to location. But it's probable that you could come into contact with a rapist, and that would be horrible, wouldn't it? And what would the media say? What did she expect, sure she was well up for it, blah, blah, blah.

she is entitled to her views. Everything in life is subjective. Dont get all emotional because her views dont vindicate yours.

[Kaz]

Well, I for one don't think that the dirty rapist should be allowed to play again

The simple fact is that if someone is that drunk, they are not in a fit state to consent to having sex, so Ched Evans shouldn't have touched the girl. Too many people point the finger at the woman for being too drunk, but as far as UK law is concerned, drunk sex (or having sex with someone under the influence of drugs) is not rape unless the person is unable to give consent or say no.

Fully agree. It's another sign of how people in society don't take responsibility for their actions. It's always some one else's fault. A lack of respect for women by many men in society and think they can get away with this shite.