Jiberjabber (02-11-14)
They do I'm a skilled worker well trained and was excellent at my job, I have a lovely bedside manner and get a vein on the first go 9 out 10times, and was excellent at stitches and wound care in general, plus I'm well qualified
I'd get a visa for Aussie anyway
But greed made me do sex to get ahead, and do it on my back and not on hand outs
And are you sure Roma go home to poor condition, maybe temporary dwelling in the host nation, but have you seen there villas in Romanian? I have
You know how much begging can yield? Lots and you know how far that goes in Romanian pretty far
Except petrol that shocked me higher than here but you see some amount of high powered cars cool place Romanian
Was quite an eye opening trip,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people
we have a large tract of people with that name (2-12 million), practically all criminal
we need to build a lot of jails, do them for their crimes
when they come out they will quickly cop on
Well clearly it's a flawed system that permits this to happen, so your vitriol should be directed at said system and not particular groups.
Given that this is a welfare state and education is free you have probably taken more from the exchequer than any individual member of the Roma community. You now work in the black economy and don't pay income tax so you are abdicating your own social responsibility to contribute to the society that has educated and trained you.
I'd paid fees, and worked since my teens, and how do you know I do not pay tax rather presumptuous, do U think you can just lodge large amounts of money too your account and no one question it, if the tax man catches U, u will be destroyed in inflated taxes, plus considering working and paying prsi for ten years prior you can't simple disappear now, if you want to own anything of value you need to prove your income you know like an house and the such plus I live here and spend my money in local economy
And well as a native in this country these are things I'm entitled too my parents have paid into the system and where never out of work or drew the dole, yes child benifit of course. free education should happened, but its not free for everyone , I payed fees in university no grants, now was just registration fee but not free, plus I worked in collage to pay it, even when doing slave labour on wards for little pay,
The fees for me to advance again are huge, so I needed to work in an area that could provide that income while still been able to work on my goals
Do you think Roma pay tax on the money form begging? Spend there earnings in the local economy or send it away?
But your right it is the system, I said it before id welcome and Aussie type border, if your skilled and will contribute in a positive way in you come, I dont think there a need to import problems when we cannot sort our own,
And well its only a small island we can only realistically support so many
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From the aforementioned report:
CASE STUDY 5
REQUEST FOR DOCUMENTATION/OBSTRUCTION
David has secure and sustainable residency in Ireland granted on the basis of his parentage of an Irish
citizen child, James. James is disabled; he has limited mobility and requires constant medical
attention. Following a breakdown of his marriage, David moved with his son from Athlone to Cork in
December 2011. David had not secured accommodation in Cork and he lived with family members
and friends.
David submitted an application for Supplementary Welfare Allowance (SWA) in December 2011.
The SWA application was refused on the basis that David had not provided evidence that he had
obtained a work permit in the State. As a parent of an Irish citizen child, David was not required to
hold a work permit to engage in employment. Additionally, a work permit is not proof of residence,
merely proof that the holder is eligible to work for the named employer.
Nasc appealed this decision on that basis and provided the requisite supporting evidence. In May
2012, the Department of Social Protection accepted Nasc’s argument but required further evidence
that James was in fact Irish. James’ original Irish passport was not deemed sufficient and they
requested a ‘Letter from the Department of Justice and Law Reform confirming the Irish citizenship
of the Irish child’. James’ Irish citizenship derived from his birth in the state in accordance with the
citizenship laws at that time. A letter of this nature is never provided upon the birth of an Irish citizen
in the state.
In late June 2012 the Department of Social Protection requested the details of David’s work efforts
from February 2012. These documents were provided within the time allotted. In July the HSE became
concerned about David’s ability to adequately support his child financially as David was now homeless
and sleeping rough. James was being cared for by his sister who was living on limited means. Nasc
met with the social workers concerned and explained that there was a delay in David’s application for
SWA. We assured the HSE that we were confident that David would eventually receive a payment and
they agreed not to move to place James in state care.
At this time David was forced to beg in the streets to support his son. This was his only source of
income. The Community Welfare Office was informed of the urgency of David’s situation and the risk
that James would be taken into care at a substantial cost to the state. The Office responded with a
request for further information, which included his sister’s PPS number as he had resided with her for
a short period upon his arrival in Cork, as well as further bank statements. Finally they sought evidence
of David’s income and whereabouts for the past two years. All requested documentation was provided.
Finally payment was granted in September 2012, nine months after the initial application was lodged.
David now lives with his son James, in the home of a family member. James is attending school and
doing very well. David is currently seeking employment and access to a FÁS course.
They're not all living it up in villas in Romania, Annabel.
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Cassandra (03-11-14)
No they didn't. Nazis held the view that the only good gypsy is a dead gypsy. I advocate tough policing, not holocausts. Pulling the hitler card is just lame, if not predictable. Here's a little link I had bookmarked as I was expecting some twit to
http://www.fallacyfiles.org/adnazium.html
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