New laws

[Melindablondey]

When it involves a man and a 'sex crime' that goes right out the window.

ok so you just came in for a massage end of as thats all i do and i have a cert to prove it x x x

[ber]

The most important thing is that if there is going to be panic let it be organised panic

[hitman76]

Hi All!

Just going through the forum here and there's so much concern about the possibility of ROI following suit with the new legislation in the North. Maybe I'm missing something but I can only see this being enforced with street prostitution - how on earth can it be proved that a guy in a hotel room has paid a girl? Unless a policeman is actually there and sees money being handed over how can they disprove 'oh she's my fb {fuck buddy - technically true} or we are having an affair etc? Unless someone has tipped police off about a working girl why would they even bother trying to find guys going into hotels? I just dont see what the panic is. I dunno alll the threads about it has me thinking maybe I should be worried but Im not in the least! If you were to worry about all the things that might happen you'd never step outside the door!!

Don't have the manpower or the budget for an operation of that magnitude, the budget being the main factor when is the last time you seen the Garda patrol on the roads breathalyse or checking taxes and the NCT, not going to happen after the water charge fiasco with all the over time for the boys in blue because of the protesters.

[Melindablondey]

I dont know what all the panic is as i said innocent until proven guilty and its not going to happen i am in dependent and will let who i wish in let it be a friend or some one calling to do some work where is the prove there is none you must be either caught in the act or been seen exchangeing money which is never going to happen there is no prove x x x

[The Libertarian]

There's a current sugar daddy site doing the rounds with apparently loads of Irish 3rd level students on it! I can't remember the name, but I do remember noting that it cost an absolute fortune to look after the young lady You wished to 'take care' of for a year, IIRC about a grand a month!

[hitman76]

Im single , 40, made good money in the good times thinking of getting a nice sugar babe, put her through college everything paid for...
Did for Brazilian babe but thinking Russian , eastern Europe.
Not interested in marrage etc , just god gealthy fun ...
Any ideas?

If you include free ice cream I'm in

[Melindablondey]

Also for got to mention if there was any body in my appartment and a knock came to the door i am surely not going to answer it so there fore no one else is going to get in x x x

[The Libertarian]

Hi All!

Just going through the forum here and there's so much concern about the possibility of ROI following suit with the new legislation in the North. Maybe I'm missing something but I can only see this being enforced with street prostitution - how on earth can it be proved that a guy in a hotel room has paid a girl? Unless a policeman is actually there and sees money being handed over how can they disprove 'oh she's my fb {fuck buddy - technically true} or we are having an affair etc? Unless someone has tipped police off about a working girl why would they even bother trying to find guys going into hotels? I just dont see what the panic is. I dunno alll the threads about it has me thinking maybe I should be worried but Im not in the least! If you were to worry about all the things that might happen you'd never step outside the door!!

The proposals by the insane Dail committee in this area (several of which are really frothing at the mouth stuff and blatantly unconstitutional - including equating a punter/Sex worker down loading a site such as EI with a paedo downloading scenes of children being raped and abused!) would if enacted give Ireland the most severe anti sex worker laws, because that's what it is in reality! in the world apart from countries which actively execute sex workers!)!
These proposals strongly want to force sex workers onto the streets by legally making any landlord or hotel owner on whose property sex work is taking place guilty of living off immoral earnings!
IT REALLY IS SERIOUSLY MADE STUFF AND PURE EVIL!

[The Libertarian]

Don't have the manpower or the budget for an operation of that magnitude, the budget being the main factor when is the last time you seen the Garda patrol on the roads breathalyse or checking taxes and the NCT, not going to happen after the water charge fiasco with all the over time for the boys in blue because of the protesters.

They will use cute foreign reservists for honeytraps!

[The Libertarian]

I absolutely agree.

I do believe the proposed new laws are bad laws and they will do nothing to help those who need it while also making life more difficult and dangerous for those escorts operating independently and of their own volition.

I also believe that the laws will come into force, just look at the numbers that voted for them in NI. Simply put those in favour of the laws have managed to garner the support of the politicians who are all desperate to be seen to do something. There is no opposing point of view. Yes, some sex workers did come forward, give evidence, and openly try to tell their stories, but it is blatantly clear that no one wants to listen to them. I fully expect the same to happen here, after all, what politician wants to run the risk of supporting sex workers, the first question that will be asked is 'why does he want to help them, what's he hiding?'

However.

When the laws come into place I do expect some early arrests, probably based around street walkers, just so the Gardai can show everyone they're on the case. But remember, this is a force that has gone through huge cuts in recent years, both financially and in terms of manpower. I expect that after the initial flush of activity things will quieten down as thin resources have to be spread to try to cover everything else.

When both clients and escorts operate with an adequate degree of discretion, privacy and common sense I fully expect their lives to continue almost exactly as it did before.

Also, and here's a thing, I expect those working at the higher end of the market to carry on as if nothing has happened, not simply because they usually operate with greater discretion, but the powers that be will only want to see a few grubby looking punters paraded before the courts, the last thing they'll want will be their friends in business, politics and senior figures in all walks of life put at risk, so the higher end of the market, and their clients, will sail on without a care

Pig brutality at Rossport, water metering protests and outside the US embassy recently strongly indicates they are well aware of their function in society - PROTECT THE RICH AND POLICE EVERYONE ELSE, EVEN IF IT IS BY COMMON CRIMINAL THUGGERY!
You can be certain that Dail members (I know of 2 active punters there, no doubt there are countless others!) prominent business people and the pigz themselves will never ever be prosecuted under these insane laws! At least in Sweden it is enforced without class bias, indeed the great and the good are fined more heavily as the fine goes in proportion to income!