Her or me

[mrsbrown]

Im afraid i have to agree with Pat on this occaision as theres no room on this website for people that put guns to peoples heads.Thats what i feel Sammymature is trying to do here!

[Oven Ready Eddie]

That's not how things work here and it never has been. When paying customers don't behave themselves on these message boards, they get restricted or banned from them. It happens all the time actually. Escorts often get silly and flood all sections of the message boards with ads for themselves. I warn them once for spamming, I warn them twice for spamming, and then they are gone for a bit because I've had enough of their spamming. Escorts pay for an advert here, they don't pay for special privellages on this message board.

I understand that and agree with anti spamming measure’s as they are a pain but you miss my point. I am not saying that you should grant any one person special privileges, I’m saying quite the opposite all other Escorts who are paying for adverts can also substantially raise their profile by taking part in all sections different topics, just the act of taking part and giving their input gives a potential client an insight to their personality and that works both ways so my point is simply that Liz in this instance if she was currently paying is at a disadvantage in the market place as she can peer over the wall but not not take part and I do admit that her being in this position is largely her own doing but if she is paying to advertise she should be on a ‘totally’ equal playing field to everyone else. She should be given that option to behave once and for all and if not then back to soap opera land. I only make this point as she is at times an advertiser, it would not apply to a client as they pay you nothing and you will not admit this but she has probably made you money in the sheer number of hits on anything she posts on as people are drawn to car crash TV like moths to a flame.

And it is wrong for you to just wash your hands of Samy as she is also your customer and made a very valid point, no business that gives up on its clientele that easy will last the distance, I thought you showed a lack of ummpf there Patricia, will you not even pm and ask her for her custom as it’s the trickle that breaks the mightiest dam.

[Patricia]

And it is wrong for you to just wash your hands of Samy as she is also your customer and made a very valid point, no business that gives up on its clientele that easy will last the distance, I thought you showed a lack of ummpf there Patricia, will you not even pm and ask her for her custom as it’s the trickle that breaks the mightiest dam.

I respect your opinion Eddie.

But I do not ban anyone at an advertiser's request.

And Samantha can't come on here at 11 o'clock at night saying somebody else must be banned or she is gone, and inform me she needs this resolved by the morning.

Also, since I said I wouldn't ban Liz by morning over this, Samantha has been in the "E-I The Soap Opera" section calling Liz names and saying Liz works for the agency behind E-I whatever that allegation is supposed to mean?

I'm sorry, but IMHO Samantha isn't being reasonable here.

[ninebythree]

and she also posts in this forum knowing Lizie can respond here

nbt

[Oven Ready Eddie]

I respect your opinion Eddie.

But I do not ban anyone at an advertiser's request.

And Samantha can't come on here at 11 o'clock at night saying somebody else must be banned or she is gone, and inform me she needs this resolved by the morning.

Also, since I said I wouldn't ban Liz by morning over this, Samantha has been in the "E-I The Soap Opera" section calling Liz names and saying Liz works for the agency behind E-I whatever that allegation is supposed to mean?

I'm sorry, but IMHO Samantha isn't being reasonable here.

Fair enough but this place has really gone down hill and has lost its way and I feel you really need to concentrate on your customers needs and rights. They are your golden geese Patricia, you just lost one and you might not see that as any great event but you gave up on her awful quick is all I’m saying maybe your in contact privately, I hope you are as whether you care or not she is a component part of your collective customer base and are the whole reason for this places reason for being, not cyber crap and the genuine customers of your customers will go else where if this keeps up long term an all you will be left with is a hardcore bunch of fucking wankers that probably were never even with a woman full stop posting crap at one another for god knows what motive. How long must it go on before you accept your lack lustre and half hearted efforts are not cutting it. There is not much profit in that for you in the long term Patricia so for gods sake think on and concentrate on the women who pay you your dividend.

[experienced punter]

Its a disgrace to see a girl forced out of this website by the behavior of another Patricia u have had every reason to ban that thing yet for whatever reason u have decided not to, I have confronted the thing in Soap Opera section so I'm not hiding away commenting here Shes allowed to continue insulting & continue with smart talk at will, She has nothing at all to do with her day just pick on people with her very poor spelling threatening people with legal action She must not be allowed to post in other sections I'm sick of commenting on her it falls on deaf ears I'm off to work.....

[Patricia]

If anyone wants to say he they feel Liz should be banned, I am defo listening to that, but the way Samantha approached this is not the way to get things done.

Every week ladies contact me to complain about the behaviour of others on this message board. These complaints are always listened to and dealt with, and nearly all of the time the complaining lady is satisfied with the action we take to resolve the issue.

I'm aware Liz annoys many but many also like her.

Honestly, my opinion on what is going on here at the moment is that it is not Liz or any other individual user who is causing the problems here, it is general unrest and what is needed is for us to have a firm moderator here nearly 24/7, reading every single post and putting people back in their place when they step out of line.

This is what we plan to do, but I'm afraid we just don't have the staff to do it at the moment. We hope to quite soon, but in the meantime we are just doing our best with the staff we have.

I would personally live on these message boards, but for the fact I am currently overseeing major changes to E-I that have been a long time coming, that a lot of people want and that I believe will greatly improve this website and I'm not prepared to put off these changes any lonnger by spending all my time here so they never get done.

In this case Liz was calling Samantha names and Samantha was calling Liz names back.

Really if Samantha wanted Liz banned she should not have gone down to her level because when I looked at this I saw 2 people slagging each other off which is very different to one person attacking another out of nowhere. In that situation I didn't feel it was fair to say Liz you are banned for casting offensive insults, but Samantha you get no reprimand.

Yes Samantha is a sometime customer, but so are thousands of other ladies, and there are also tens of thousands of clients who use this website, who may not be paying customers of ours, but if we ignored their concerns we'd soon lose them and then where would this website be? We can't change our actions and plans to please one customer who is threatening to not be a customer unless we do something for her. We have to do what we believe is best for everyone overall.

I wish Samantha all the best and I don't ignore her feelings here, but no escort is ever going to dictate who is banned from using these message boards - That has to be my call.

Also this was not a situation where Liz attacked Samantha out of nowhere - It was an argument between the two of them where arguably Samantha gave as good as she got.

There was a similar argument between two other ladies earlier this week. I took the two ladies aside and explained to them that this message board was not their cat fight ground and if the arguing didn't stop I'd bar them both. One lady stopped instantly and explained she hadn't even wanted the argument in the first place. The other lady stopped more reluctantly just as I was about to ban her. However, in the end it was resolved and the bitching ended and both ladies got on with their business. My point is arguments can be resolved, it doesn't have to be "Her or me" and all this drama.

Also, just last week I permanently banned 2 people over attacks they made on a advertiser here. So I am well capable of doing it. But it has to be because I feel it is warranted, not because I'm being held to ransom.

Pat x

[thehighwayman]

I don't think Samantha should've held the site to ransom and demanding Liz be banned. She could have ignored whatever Liz said. Liz can't post in this section so Samantha could post all she wanted here without been interupted. I can understand where she's coming from though it restricts her too if she just posts here and doesn't post in the soap opera section avoiding Liz. She could have ignored pms by blocking any user that was offending her.

[dreamon]

Patricia is right. You would not have these boards at all if someone could demand that someone else be removed. Sammymature went too far and, I suspect, regrets it now.
Liz has a lot of time on her hands. She is a bright lady but, unfortunately, there is a lot of pain inside her that has never been dealt with and it comes through in her posts. Most people are able to see and understand this but some insist on going after her and "beating their head against a brick wall". This is what Liz enjoys and, if people want to go head to head with her, then do it but stop whining because you havent "put her in her place". A bold child is bold because they get attention. If they dont get attention, they get bored and do something else.

[thehighwayman]

Now that Sammys gone could Liz be given a second chance to post here so I can keep my beedy third eye on her And the removal of the maggot tag. If my demands aren't met by 3.00pm the chicken gets it