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[Westsidex]

There are decent bits in between x

Im not looking for them. I dont think I have enough life left to do it.

Westside.

[tomlittle]

and like poking their noses in other peoples business just to have digs at others jeez...

Anyhow its friday so i wish you all a fantabulous weekend...im off to play elsewhere

You off Rollerblading again

[Westsidex]

Theres a few chinese go skateboarder down my way every now and then One of the days Ill chase them down the road and kick the rice out of them. Skatboarders should be taxed for the noise and disruption they make. Insurance companies should give discounts to divers who knock them down and kill them

anyway,
Westside.

[Best Before]

I do believe there is a difference with the saying go with the flow and things not on offer. I like to go with the flow myself in a date but within my boundaries. Each date does need to be different or it would become mechanical and boring for both parties.

In saying this it's never going to move to bare back either.

An encounter is always going to depend on both people as to how it develops which is the click factor.

I think it's up to each lady what she is willing to do in her appointments and at anytime you can say you are not comfortable with something. I never had a problem with this.

There are certain undesirable circumstances where the odd gent will try to push his luck but then surely the escort can deal with this and say no or stop?

I don't see the point of debating other ladies ways of working I am surely concerned about how I work only and I realise that I am in control of my own appt.

Reviews are yet another way to tell things about an escort.

I agree live and let live however someone deals with their boundaries and dates is surely up to them as an adult to make a decision about.

If a lady offers a non advertised service it's her business there are certain favourites that the lady may enjoy only at her choice.

Bb is different that's a health risk xx

This is the thing say I don't feel comfortable with a certain favourite being advertised as then every joe expects it and I decide that I will allow it in certain circumstances let's call it fingering. So when I meet a guy if I feel comfortable enough to allow it if he goes overboard or makes me uncomfy I can always say stop.

Every appointment I entertain does not include all my favourites it's merely a guideline which I as an escort at anytime can change.

I agree with zilch rather a few favs and if something else occurs it's a bonus then ticking every box knowing full well you won't provide them.

Each to their own really. I haven't ever had a problem with someone constantly wanting something I don't provide if I say no.
Also clients who want to keep safe visit me to so they may state they don't want owo and that's ok with me also.

This is an escort site and policing people their favourites or whatever they get upto is never going to work because whatever goes on behind closes doors stays there.

The result of ladies listing favs they never intend to offer results in more confusion I think.

In fairness I don't think that many people have the whole list of favs memorised sometimes you partake in all favs sometimes you don't partake in any it's more natural that way. If I had to work along these lines strictly according to a list of favs it would take away any individuality that I input to tailor make my encounters.

One cannot police pms services or much of anything in the escort world xxx

Your posts never fail to make perfect sense Alyssa.
You always keep your head, and never get personal. It's a great trait.

[samlad]

Personally, I think clients should regard favourites as a 'guide line'. As with any encounter, regardless of it being paid for or not, a person (and in this case, the person happens to be a sex worker) has the right to say NO at ANY TIME THEY WANT TO! Pressing it is coercion, forcing it is rape and if a client RESPECTS an escort's BOUNDARIES, who knows, that person might be more comfortable with the client next time.

Favourites are not a guarantee, they are a guide-line. Of course there are escorts that will list everything to get the client through the door, and if you are 'hoodwinked', still respect the boundaries, move on and don't visit that escort again. Being abusive about it is NOT going to help a client get their own way, and they will end up being the wanker!

[Lucy Chambers]

Personally, I think clients should regard favourites as a 'guide line'. As with any encounter, regardless of it being paid for or not, a person (and in this case, the person happens to be a sex worker) has the right to say NO at ANY TIME THEY WANT TO! Pressing it is coercion, forcing it is rape and if a client RESPECTS an escort's BOUNDARIES, who knows, that person might be more comfortable with the client next time.

Favourites are not a guarantee, they are a guide-line. Of course there are escorts that will list everything to get the client through the door, and if you are 'hoodwinked', still respect the boundaries, move on and don't visit that escort again. Being abusive about it is NOT going to help a client get their own way, and they will end up being the wanker!

I think the problem lays with the fact that a small element of clientele will always try and push their luck, and when they don't get their own way you can guarantee they will tell you so and so does this, so and so does that. I had one client who insisted that every lady allowed him to rub his unsheathed bits against her genitals. As I have worked with a few of the ladies he mentioned I knew full well he was fibbing but they are hoping to find a new/young/insecure chick who will take the bait and think they have to perform similar things. In this instance I worry for new escorts.


As side note to this debate though, do people think it might be better to scrap favourites all together? No expectation at all then. I only asked because I worked for 18 months with none listed and apart from the occasional question call (which I get anyway with favourites listed) it didn't seem to effect things.

[samlad]

I think the problem lays with the fact that a small element of clientele will always try and push their luck, and when they don't get their own way you can guarantee they will tell you so and so does this, so and so does that. I had one client who insisted that every lady allowed him to rub his unsheathed bits against his. As I have worked with a few of the ladies he mentioned I knew full well he was fibbing but they are hoping to find a new/young/insecure chick who will take the bait and think they have to perform similar things. In this instance I worry for new escorts.


As side note to this debate though, do people think it might be better to scrap favourites all together? No expectation at all then. I only asked because I worked for 18 months with none listed and apart from the occasional question call (which I get anyway with favourites listed) it didn't seem to effect things.

Yes, I think favourites are a massive issue personally, but sadly it is a double-edged sword. People make informed choices based on them (although as of late, they are very hit and miss) and we have escorts asking us to add more services to the favourites list.

In a Utopian world, escorts would list the bare bones of what they would offer generically and anything else is a Brucey-Bonus. In the same world, clients would appreciate that different services are discretionary. I doubt very much that removing favourites would remove expectation and a sense of entitlement though.

[Dohnut Boy]

Yes, I think favourites are a massive issue personally, but sadly it is a double-edged sword. People make informed choices based on them (although as of late, they are very hit and miss) and we have escorts asking us to add more services to the favourites list.

In a Utopian world, escorts would list the bare bones of what they would offer generically and anything else is a Brucey-Bonus. In the same world, clients would appreciate that different services are discretionary. I doubt very much that removing favourites would remove expectation and a sense of entitlement though.

You're not wrong Sir Samuel,

I think a "minimums" listing would be simpler and then as an appointment progresses each party figures out what the other is or isn't receptive to; whereas a full favourites list gives rise to the assumption that almost anything is essentially "fair game".

So much is also down to personal definition as well as physiology, so what might be one punters idea of fingering or deep throat might be one escorts idea of physical trauma!

It's not two teenagers fumbling around at a party with the fella trying to get away with things until he gets his hand slapped a few times. Not that I'm speaking from personal experience or anything there ....................... obviously.

[Curvaceous Kate]

Yup, that's just dirty, kinky you lol.

I am again a little bemused how bb is a health risk and yet CIM or OWO aren't though (with regards to another post). We have had bare knuckle fights over these points on the boards before now, where Escorts have revered the thought of both and withdrawn these from their list due to the health risk and I've had to defend my point for offering OWO. Now... they're not a health risk?

I think really it is about transparency and boundaries. If neither are to be trusted, then really having a list is meaningless, which I know it isn't, as some clients do choose their booking based on what is offered.

I would like to state that My reaction was based on new clients going to see an Escort for the first time. When you have met someone several times, then you know each other much better physically and mentally and going with the flow is more natural, as you know what makes the other respond. At this point you also know each other well enough to know where the natural limits lie and can easily move things on should a boundary be pushed. It's a total different ball game.

Of course you can go with the flow with a new client too, but that flow should be withing the Escorts boundaries and comfort zone. You might want to do something off the list, but it should be asked first and not an assumption.

The list to me isn't meant to be used as 'all available' in one booking, it is a matter of, these are the things that I generally enjoy and you can happily enjoy some of these things with me during the booking. However, this is always at discretion, as there are various reasons why it might be retracted, ie, smelly breath, refusing a shower, too large etc.

[Alyssa Jenkins]

Bb is a much larger risk than owo or CIM for that matter.
I offer owo and used to offer CIM but removed those due to health risks in medical journals.

I have no problems with ladies offering/not offering CIM or owo would I think bb is a worse health risk yes absolutely and again if a lady chooses to do bb while I don't agree with it I wouldn't kind knowing about it that way I can avoid clients who take such a service.

It's back to trying to police escorting though it will never happen.
When I meet a client as a first time I feel able enough to say yes or no to certain services.
Somebody meeting me is by no means paying for a list of favs those are only there as favs a guideline which aren't to be expected and if I choose to allow fingering that is my choice to.

I really think this thread has seen it's days it's gone from someone offering services not in favs to bb and now to owo and CIM which is a debate that has gone on forever.
It's important as an escort to be happy with what you offer and to feel comfy in your own skin that's it simples.

I honestly have never had a new client force things I don't want if I say I don't like that then it's respected and I hardly hear forced services being complained about xx