Services offered

[lol brb]

At which point does one establish that the client is skilled in an area that is not advertised as an option? How does the lady for instance know that the client is able to touch her in a way that is pleasurable, unless he first puts his hands on her in the area that is not advertised as a service? For me it is a 'chicken & egg' situation. Yes you can tell if there is chemistry there before and I suppose you could let the chemistry guide you to the new boundaries, but it doesn't mean he is skilled. This means that at some point the client must be pushing the boundaries to see where it will take him.

This could go two ways, it could continue and they both enjoy it, or it could make her feel uncomfortable and she then has to decide if she tells him to stop or allows him to carry on regardless. Either way, a line has been crossed.

For me 'going with the glow', is within the boundaries set. The boundaries that dictate the Escorts comfort zone.

I've noticed that it's been said that I do cross the line with my services, but I can assure anyone asking that I don't. The services available today are the ones that I am happy with now and I often change them depending on my mood and situation. Anything that is not on that list, is not available and it is a complete 'flow breaker' for someone to keep hassling for bb sex, or anal, or rimming etc, as I don't do it. Plus if anyone asks me for bb, I then retract OWO and say it needs to be covered, as I see them as a greater risk to my health.

It's all very well saying, 'it's between 2 consenting adults' and 'what has it got to do with anyone else?' But there is a knock on affect here. For one. A client wants to meet a woman who only does oral with, because he considers it to be safer, so if she is doing OWO when it takes her fancy, then his belief is not true and it also means, he actually is just as safe with an Escort who does OWO and advertises it, as long as she is happy to do oral with when they are together. It's false advertising.

Then there is the fact that when boundaries are broken frequently, they lose their meaning and become meaningless. As the handsome one has said, all the girls want to offer him OWO, so not only does he get it, but he has come to expect it. This means he could assume that all services are available from all girls and it's there for the taking. (I'm not saying he does). Some people like to test boundaries and it becomes a game and to openly acknowledge that boundaries get broken when there is chemistry, does seem fool hardy to me and makes life more difficult for others.

For me communication is key. I strongly believe that as people working intimately with strangers that we should be in control and working in our own comfort zones and the services are not just there to tell the client what he can look forward to, but they also set out where the comfort zone is and what the person is happy to provide with the right conditions. All services are subject to the right conditions, so why leave some off, if you are prepared to do them?

I just think that it's a very dangerous game and I refuse to be drawn in by the haters, I'm not interested. I started this thread due to genuine concern and anyone who thinks differently can go swivel

I understand completely where you are coming from. I suppose my point is for me is that I'd never go int an appointment with a list of what is allowed or not allowed. So I follow the ladies lead and go with her flow.

[Rachel Divine]

What is the point of having a list of services if no one actually sticks to them?

I've really had my eyes opened with recent threads where both Escorts and Clients have revealed that they indulge in non advertised services without prior consultation.

Not a matter of, asking if it's okay to do the non advertised service, but 'going with the flow'. How does a client know it is okay to do the unadvertised service if there is no discussion about it at any point and more importantly, having just done that with one Escort, what is to stop them doing it with another Escort, who may seriously not want to do the services not listed?

Surely it is better to list the things you enjoy doing, but stipulate on your advert that all services are at the lady's discretion, than to allow unexpected or unadvertised acts without consultation? Does that not just lead to confusion and worse still, creates bad practice that could upset another Escort?

All I can say, is no wonder so many clients are confused by what is offered and what they can actually have and what to expect. It is a minefield out there.

At this point I would like to say that all the services I have listed are available at my discretion. However, if it is not there, unless I invite you to do it, please take it that it is not to be done.

At which point does one establish that the client is skilled in an area that is not advertised as an option? How does the lady for instance know that the client is able to touch her in a way that is pleasurable, unless he first puts his hands on her in the area that is not advertised as a service? For me it is a 'chicken & egg' situation. Yes you can tell if there is chemistry there before and I suppose you could let the chemistry guide you to the new boundaries, but it doesn't mean he is skilled. This means that at some point the client must be pushing the boundaries to see where it will take him.

This could go two ways, it could continue and they both enjoy it, or it could make her feel uncomfortable and she then has to decide if she tells him to stop or allows him to carry on regardless. Either way, a line has been crossed.

For me 'going with the glow', is within the boundaries set. The boundaries that dictate the Escorts comfort zone.

I've noticed that it's been said that I do cross the line with my services, but I can assure anyone asking that I don't. The services available today are the ones that I am happy with now and I often change them depending on my mood and situation. Anything that is not on that list, is not available and it is a complete 'flow breaker' for someone to keep hassling for bb sex, or anal, or rimming etc, as I don't do it. Plus if anyone asks me for bb, I then retract OWO and say it needs to be covered, as I see them as a greater risk to my health.

It's all very well saying, 'it's between 2 consenting adults' and 'what has it got to do with anyone else?' But there is a knock on affect here. For one. A client wants to meet a woman who only does oral with, because he considers it to be safer, so if she is doing OWO when it takes her fancy, then his belief is not true and it also means, he actually is just as safe with an Escort who does OWO and advertises it, as long as she is happy to do oral with when they are together. It's false advertising.

Then there is the fact that when boundaries are broken frequently, they lose their meaning and become meaningless. As the handsome one has said, all the girls want to offer him OWO, so not only does he get it, but he has come to expect it. This means he could assume that all services are available from all girls and it's there for the taking. (I'm not saying he does). Some people like to test boundaries and it becomes a game and to openly acknowledge that boundaries get broken when there is chemistry, does seem fool hardy to me and makes life more difficult for others.

For me communication is key. I strongly believe that as people working intimately with strangers that we should be in control and working in our own comfort zones and the services are not just there to tell the client what he can look forward to, but they also set out where the comfort zone is and what the person is happy to provide with the right conditions. All services are subject to the right conditions, so why leave some off, if you are prepared to do them?

I just think that it's a very dangerous game and I refuse to be drawn in by the haters, I'm not interested. I started this thread due to genuine concern and anyone who thinks differently can go swivel

In the first post you go on about how the client will know, in the second post how will the escort know. Previous consultation need it , in second post, the escort need to wait to be touched by the guy.

Very contradicting.

On blue ... is what Steph said.

Again, confusing where is your genuine concern.

[anon361]

Docs here, in before it's locked

[Rachel Divine]

That's where we will have to agree to disagree, Rachel. I didn't see anything in the OP to suggest she was having a go
at Stephanie, and I didn't see anything wrong with what Stephanie posted on the other thread either. How Stephanie,
or any other escort, wishes to conduct their appointments is their business, but I would like to re-iterate my original point,
that non-advertised services becoming public knowledge could cause problems for some escorts in the future.

Indeed, let's agree to disagree.

[Forrest]

Haven't you got a nice pic or a sexy lady to post somewhere, I thought you were done with this site on moral grounds

That's rich coming from the someone who has requested several self-bans, changed your password
to lock yourself out of your account, and you're still here



For the record, I have plenty of nice pics of amazing things, or sexy ladies, that I will post when the mood takes me.

[Rachel Divine]

ok, now I am gone to bed, night night peeps

Rachel

Too much fun here .. Don't go

[lol brb]

Apart from all the bitching, it's a great topic from a both sides perspective. Pity some can't see farther than their latest fued.

[Rachel Divine]

That's rich coming from the someone who has requested several self-bans, changed your password
to lock yourself out of your account, and you're still here

For the record, I have plenty of nice pics of amazing things, or sexy ladies, that I will post when the mood takes me.

Funny ...

Tell us you love Emma

[Stephanie]

In the first post you go on about how the client will know, in the second post how will the escort know. Previous consultation need it , in second post, the escort need to wait to be touched by the guy.

Very contradicting.

On blue ... is what Steph said.

Again, confusing where is your genuine concern.

I prefer my own appointments in the 'go with the flow' mold >> that means I lead to my heart's content ,

and you get to go with the flow . My (!) boundaries : Nothing untoward tried or allowed. Relaxed. Joyful.

Makes for wonderful encounters x

Not nice , trying to twist and turn my post to her bitchy intent.

For me 'going with the glow', is within the boundaries set. The boundaries that dictate the Escorts comfort zone.

How is that different from what I posted x

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[Forrest]

Funny ...

Tell us you love Emma

I love all the escorts I have met, Rachel, for having the character to do their job in such an engaging and pleasurable way.