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    It is my understanding that as the law states at the moment (please correct me if I am wrong) it is not illegal for one girl to work from a premises if she is the only girl there. If she shares accommodation with one or more girls, this is illegal and classed as a brothel. I read on this site that if there are girls working in different apartments within the same apartment block and share bathroom facilities or whatever then the entire block can be considered a brothel, which is a bit mad. It is legal for a number of girls to work from the same hotel, as long they are working from different rooms and not sharing any facilities, i.e. towels for a client's shower, if though for example two girls were offering duo services from a hotel, then this is considered a brothel and therefore illegal.

    I know that some girls do operate from a premises on their own, possibly they prefer it that way. I know that some girls do share accommodation with an friend or whatever. I think to expect girls to have to operate from a premises alone in order not to be considered doing something illegal is madness. Surely what the most important thing is the girl's safety. A girl surely would feel safer knowing that she has a friend in the other bedroom, kitchen or whatever that she can call on for help if she gets a drunk or an asshole client trying to be heavy handed with her. If there is nobody else there she is at the mercy of said asshole and could end up getting very hurt, robbed or worse, who can she call out for. We have heard today about some filth robbing girls in Galway. While I take my hat off to the girls involved for reporting to the authorities, I wonder if girls getting robbed, hassled happens more often than we hear as they are afraid to report it to the police fear of getting themselves into trouble. As well as the obvious safety issue for girls working alone, there is the financial aspect. My understanding is that there is a separate section of this website only accessible to girls, where apartments are advertised. Some girls have told me that the rent that they pay in some areas can be 800 euro or more a week, so surely sharing with a friend and splitting the cost is the obvious choice.

    We have heard today of premises been raided in Roscommon, and as I type this now Letterkenny, last week Kerry. It would appear that the Gardai are taking more of an interest at the moment. I wonder if girls were in a situation where they were unable to share accommodation, would they continue to operate here. There is the obvious safety issues that come from not having a friend there as some sort of back up. Then there is the financial side, think about it, if a girl is paying 800 euro a week for accommodation and charging 80 euro for thirty minutes, she needs to see ten clients just to cover the rent. There is the cost of advertising here, other expenses that go along with providing a service, living costs etc. This is something I wonder, though I do not ask or expect any girl to answer as I know it may compromise them somewhat.

    I wonder as clients, when we are visiting a girl in an apartment do we ever think that there may be a chance there may be another girl there too, although she may be unseen or unheard. Are we comfortable with this possibility, as in the eyes of the law we are visiting a brothel and therefore doing something illegal. If over coming weeks we see more raids been highlighted, will clients deter from seeing girls for fear of been caught in such a premises. I know it easy to say something like "I'm always careful when selecting the girl I visit" but realistically how can you say that you know for sure that there wouldn't be any possibility of another girl on the premises. It would have to a girl that you have visited before, sat out in the livingroom and had a coffee or whatever during your visit. Having said it happened to me before that I visited a girl, afterwards I wanted to smoke, so she took me into the livingroom, she made me a coffee. She had just arrived that day and had all her stuff in boxes. She asked if I would hang on and help her unpack, move some of her things, I was more than happy to stay and help her and in doing so I ended been in every room of the apartment and could see that we were alone there. I went back to see her a few days later, afterwards I asked if I could go to the livingroom to smoke. She told me I couldn't as her friend who has arrived two nights previously was in there. So unbeknown to me that I was doing something illegal by just been there. Don't get me wrong, I didn't go rushing out or anything, I have visited girls where I know that they have friends there also, or had duos, I suppose this is a risk I have been willing to take, how do other clients feel on this matter. As I have said I think to expect a girl to have to operate from a premises alone is madness, be it the financial issues, but more importantly the safety issues.
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    I don' think it is illegal to visit a brother, it is illegal to work in a brothel. I agree with you, that it is madness that women are not allowed to work in pairs, in light of the history of Sex Workers often being victims of hate crime.

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    So unbeknown to me that I was doing something illegal by just been there.

    Quote Originally Posted by CurvaceousKate View Post
    I don' think it is illegal to visit a brother, it is illegal to work in a brothel. I agree with you, that it is madness that women are not allowed to work in pairs, in light of the history of Sex Workers often being victims of hate crime.
    Sorry meant to say was I doing something illegal by been there

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    Quote Originally Posted by isthereanybodyoutthere View Post
    So unbeknown to me that I was doing something illegal by just been there.



    Sorry meant to say was I doing something illegal by been there
    I'm not sure you were. I think it is the sex worker who is doing something illegal in this case and not the client, as it is not illegal to purchase sex. Yet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CurvaceousKate View Post
    I'm not sure you were. I think it is the sex worker who is doing something illegal in this case and not the client, as it is not illegal to purchase sex. Yet!
    'Yet' being the operative word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by isthereanybodyoutthere View Post
    .......It is legal for a number of girls to work from the same hotel, as long they are working from different rooms and not sharing any facilities, i.e. towels for a client's shower,.....
    I wouldn't bet on that. Common facilities might not be the only test that could be used.

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    U mentioned Roscommon,letterkenny & Kerry been under close scrutiny by the guards there's also a front page story in yesterdays corkman a local cork paper sorry no links the story is about prostitution in mallow town about how the gaurds are looking in to the increasing number of escorts coming to the town. No arrests but a couple of ladies had their pics and information printed their faces were not shown. But i recognized one lady who i had met before so i thought i had to send a message to tell her about the story and she since moved on. Apparently a reporter had rang couple of the ladies pretending to be an pretential customer and quizzed them on what services were available. Unaware ofcourse that he was a reporter gave him what he wanted for his story. But there seems to be more of these stories about how the guards are clamping down on it of late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SophieX View Post
    The gards are in all towns at the moment raiding, be afraid....
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    Last year I was stopped by the gards and questioned etc. not very nice at all had a thread about it

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    Jeez lots of raids of late and there was me thinking the Garda Síochána resourses were stretched

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