Do we need to cover our tracks if the Law Changes?

[rob_tig]

If that's the case David I'm packing my bags and going to find a nice little island in the middle of nowhere. That's some scary things your mentioning there.

Several issues here and these are purely my own thoughts.

Firstly, assuming criminalisation comes in, the crime will be paying for sex. It can't be enforced retrospectively. It will up to the individual whether they wish to continue purchasing sexual services, but who you have visited and which currently legal sites you have accessed will be irrelevant.

There has been talk of making the accessing of sites such as EI an offence equivalent to viewing child pornography. If that is brought in, I for one will be emigrating as living in a lunatic asylum is not something I find acceptable. Assuming otherwise, accessing the site will not be a criminal offence any more than accessing Swedish escort sites is currently.

Any apprehension for a criminal offence will occur during or after the act of visiting a sex worker.

In Sweden, over 1000 sex workers still make a living in a population not much larger than Ireland. No-one, as far as I'm aware, has been jailed for buying sex in the 15 years since the law was brought in. Plenty of fines though.

The powers that be can access absolutely anything if they want to and being paranoid about IP addresses won't make any difference.

[warmcome]

Swedish style legislation would clash with our constitution in several areas. in addition
it lacks proportionality, a bit like closing all shops to deter shoplifting.

[Alyssa Jenkins]

In Norway reviews are left but guys tend to change details of time and date slightly a review on a website couldn't really incriminate anyone so you shouldn't be concerned.

Regards getting a warrant for website data it would hold many implications in the fact that the reason for the warrant would have to of a very serious nature and not just fine a few guys for visiting ladies. If this was the case the USA who have different laws which are rather more serious and are enforced would use this method.

I agree with davidontour here the enforcement of this law would typically during or after your visit. Xx

[bluefan1]

Would you still leave reviews if the law come into force?

Review criteria will probably need reviewing depending in the legislation enacted. Date and time (and maybe, place) of appointment would I imagine no longer form part of the review.

[Its only me]

Get a VPN. I got one and its great. You could change your browser to Tor and that will help keep you safe.

[Dionysus]

I couldn really give a shit about the law , as it is said on most of the escorts profile, they are only charging for their time ,what ever else happens is between two consenting adults, it would be nearly impossible to prove any thing , and I don't think it would hold up in a court of law, im a single person and no one will tell me what I can and cannot do ,
Any way I would say there are lots of people out there who are in very high positions of authority that visit escorts , so people in glass houses should not throw stones, they are more corrupt than the average punter on here.

[Empirical]

We might be in a rather strange position; there are two countries in one island. So, we could say we met so-and-so in the north, when it was in the south and vice-versa. Perhaps.

More generally, the laws both north and south have yet to pass; and the paradox is that while many people would disapprove of escorting, they would not be in favour of making it illegal—once they are aware of the facts, that is. Most people simply don't know what is illegal and what isn't, or what the real reasons behind the nordic model are.

[Zoidberg]

Just wondering what information shows up on the website about us and does it give a unique reference code for each computer or is it just an IP address that they might have on us to haul before some tribunal or a Spanish Inquisition

I can live with an IP address as it usually work and lots of people in my organisation

However if they can drill down into my computer and they found me!!!

If they really wanted to catch you they could, all the Garda would have to do is speak to your head of IT and get a copy of the company router files that correspond to E-I. Then match that internally to your work computer. But as has been said before they can't do you retroactively, so you are fine.

Would you still leave reviews if the law come into force?

Not unless I was allowed something like Tor to create a new profile and use that to make reviews from. That way I would be protected as best as my ability from any investigation.

[Armchair Traveller]

Let's hope the European Union comes to our aid

[Dr. Ivory]

In Sweden, over 1000 sex workers still make a living in a population not much larger than Ireland. No-one, as far as I'm aware, has been jailed for buying sex in the 15 years since the law was brought in. Plenty of fines though..

Sweden's population is over twice that of Ireland at 9.5 million so if the 1000 prostitutes figure were correct it would suggest prostitution at half the Irish rate. But see here for analysis of Swedish data:
http://factsaresacred.ie/politics/ha...ned-in-sweden/