Gfe

[funlover12]

It needs to be discussed at lenght. Thanks for bringing it up. I have raised it before, but it got side tracked. How is the piano going? Are you a player? or do you just own a Steinway? Could be stolen by a few strong strong ,men.

Anyway I thought GFE meant being with a girl who was like a real girlfriend. A girl who would spoil you....and really love you and want you etc at least for the session, and love you to death until her next client came.

I can think of only one such girl. What they offer would only be what they feel comfortable with, and has nothing to do with french kissing. or anthing else

And this girl would spoil you and treat you like so nice.

So thats my definition of gfe

French kissing is another problem and most girlshave different attitudes which annoys me

I t should be broken up into about 3 categories
Tongue fighting................tongue touching................closed mouth...........etc...........

I will never forget the first french kiss that I got many years ago, and will never be forgotten.

I actually prefer a french kiss but without the tongue, way better full on mouth kiss very sensual but not much tongue action at all, tongues are icky compared to a passionate full on lips/mouth kiss that said I do throw the odd tongue down full on slow and passionately too at times.

[Steinway]

... I think it's a matter for the escorts to answer & the way gfe is advertised and what's expected.

I don't think so: leaving it to clients and escorts IS the problem right now. An escort has every right to assume she doesn't have to french kiss while still offering the client GFE, because this site makes that distinction by allowing her to list both separately among their favorites. On the other hand, a client has every right to assume he can French kiss when the escort offers him GFE (confirmed at the moment of payment), just because the explanatory list (the 'help' button next to the favorites on the profile pages) makes it explicit in that way. And to think of settling a misunderstanding when meeting the escort is futile: chances are that opposite views cannot be reconciled (because both parties may loose interests that are of value to them (an escort should not be argued into allowing something as deeple personal (to women, at least) as a french kiss; some clients (like me) want or even need a certain type of GFE to interact with a complete stranger (it does not necessarily have to include french kissing, but something more than 'hi', blowjob, ejaculation and 'bye').

Therefore, the solution lies not with both of these parties, but with the management of the website. Either the explanatory list keeps french kissing (or whichever action) as an example of GFE, but then does not let the escort separate both notions, or the explanatory list makes the distinction itself, in such a clear way that there can not be any confusion due to misinterpretation (wilfully or otherwise).

[BelfastGeeza]

Great post and exceptionally well expressed!

+1 to that!

[Steinway]

I don't see how E-I can police this. If an escort advertise they do a favourite & don't do it what can they do?

that is not the issue. As I have indicated twice above, I am talking about when the escort agreed on GFE after being paid, i.e. when she has had adequate time to assess the client's composure, hygiene, character, etc. It's a question of definition, not circumstance. I have no problem with an escort if she shifts the boundaries of what she is prepared to do when she has to readdres her situation between a phone call and actually being in the same room wiith the stranger. I imagine it to be difficult enough in principle, let alone what it must be like with a pushy, unclean, I respectful, etc. client. I am sure am there are plenty of those.

This site could do something to make that matter of each party knowing what the are in for (when it comes to GFE) just a tad less potentially ackward. Don't you hate it when you're in the middle of a session, working up an atmosphere, letting your body get ready the way it needs to, only to have to interrupt everything to start a conversation about semantics just because it would feel good if the escort would caress your arm or some such litle bit of engaging initiative? I have seen that, for some escorts, this can already be where they seem to want to draw the line between GFE and non-GFE. For me, it's enough to loose an erection, especially when a clock is ticking.

[Steinway]

? It has nothing to do with getting money back, nothing with the meaning of French kissing,... I have clearly expressed my suggestion as to how to simply change a few words in a list on this site.

[emilyuk]

Its always surprised me when I have come to N.Ireland for work, no one kisses! Its always me asking my clients if they kiss, I just can't get in the swing of things If I can't have a good old snog. I offer a shower, mouth wash and individual tooth brushes to freshen up so there no excuse for not kissing.

I offer both gentle lip only kissing and let the client lead it, depending on there comfort level. I'm more than happy, and enjoy, full on passionate kissing with tongues but I can be a bit full on sometimes, it turns me on, so I like to let the guy, or gal if im lucky, lead.

[NicoleBrunette]

Hi,
The official site explanation, or at least the only concrete example for GFE is French kissing. Plenty escorts advertise GFE as well as French kissing, many have GFE and 'kissing (no tongue)' listed. Today, I was with an escort who told me on the phone as well as when I gave her the fee that it included GFE, but when it came down to it, she said 'no kissing' ánd couldn't answer me as to what she meant by GFE. Could this matter be made more clear, for clients as well as escorts? (Apologies if there is already a thread on this - I couldn't find one.)

Manny girl create the profile but they dont know what all services means. Who make gre must be during the date exactly like a girlfriend. With plenty kiss, hugs and lots of love

[Kassius]

Its always surprised me when I have come to N.Ireland for work, no one kisses! Its always me asking my clients if they kiss, I just can't get in the swing of things If I can't have a good old snog. I offer a shower, mouth wash and individual tooth brushes to freshen up so there no excuse for not kissing.

I offer both gentle lip only kissing and let the client lead it, depending on there comfort level. I'm more than happy, and enjoy, full on passionate kissing with tongues but I can be a bit full on sometimes, it turns me on, so I like to let the guy, or gal if im lucky, lead.

Really? that is surprising. I love to kiss
Couldn`t imagine doing the deed without it tbh

[Danny2011]

If the overriding sentiment of this post is that gfe is ill defined then I tend to agree, the problem I think is that it can mean different things to different people both escort & client. EI defines (I'm using defines loosely) gfe as french kissing etc., its the etc. that I think causes the ambiguity but I don't think EI can be anymore specific as I said gfe the "etc." could mean different things to different people

There are two ways i can think of to define gfe better, one is for individual escorts to do so on their advert/profile in that they may explain what type of things they include as part of a gfe that they provide

But problems for escorts exist here in that a client may enjoy some but not all aspects of the gfe they provide and would that result in a negative review which would seem very unfair or an escort may in explaing what gfe means for them may leave something specific a clients wants out even if they would be happy to provide it and by omitting it would lose clients


Second option is a conversation about an individual ladies gfe when you call, this i think is the only really plausible solution and the option likely to
lead to the best meeting for everyone

[BlondeMiriam]

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