drugs something i find intreasting

[Sancho Panza]

thank you, you see the point, its not a pro i love drugs and dealers are awesome,

but its the point our industry is held similar to drugs, people are afaird of it, make up lots of stuff to make it look bad and people take it as bible and get up on high horses about the one case they know,


i dont know how many times ive sat thru a sex work arguement, and when i brought my case i was stupid what would i know, the proof says we are all drug addicts or trafficked, and how do i know otherwise these are the facts


the facts are im not a strung out junkie, im not uneducated, im not form an abusive background, im form a two parent family and loving one, im not pimped im not forced, and im not raped and im not seriving 20 men a day

but the papers and people opinion is that, and im told what do i know?

thats the point, its the same arguement, just different ''products'' one drugs one sex and both are presented in media etc worse than hell, victims etc, ie blame culture again, no one wants to admit people can make choices form themselves that are againist the status quo.

but those who dont have a clue nor experience bar articles in papers, or the one person they knew who smoke weed etc who became ill, this becomes there facts how many times we here, drugs are bad my friend got hooked and died, sorry your friend choose his path and took them,

but of course his childhood will be the cause those big bad dealers forcing herion injections into children and kidnapping them form concerned parents, bullshit, the parents shud be watching there own kids!


we need realism on matters like drugs, sex work abortion not fantical people with no actual evidence bar i once knew a guy who

neglecting that daily there down and outs pissed on our streets, and i dont like it so ban it

that attitude is clearly not working now is it!

i find it funny the same people preeching there facts on drugs see escorts, when the same bullshit said about us non stop

maybe because you seen first hand actual escorts and know its not all true. maybe just maybe if you understood addiction is a diease, and people will always find addiction and the fact most drugs cud be consummed like the way people social drink, but instead you zone in on one tragic case as the means of saying this why

what about the people dieing form alchol, where are the mass protest to stop that, or the father who drinks the dole money and comes home and batters the kids,

now that man was going be addicted no matter the drug, drink was just handy

There seems to be a tendency among certain recovered addicts to retrospectively frame all of their experiences with alcohol and/or drugs as completely negative when that was patently not the case.

I say this as an ex-drinker myself. I savoured the wonderfully rich tastes and aromas of wine, beer and spirits and I had some great times when tipsy or even three sheets to the wind. However, my regular, heavy alcohol consumption had started to destabilize my mood and since bipolar disorder is common in my family, I decided to quit while I was still ahead. I still drink non-alcoholic beer simply because I love the taste of beer just as much as the effect. Furthermore, I am perfectly happy to socialise with my friends and family who enjoy a few drinks without causing harm to anyone.

In any case, though, I fail to see why I should turn into an Ian Paisley-style opponent of recreational drug-taking simply because of my own personal experience. Life is short and if adults are denied control of even their own bodies and of the things from which they get pleasure, then we all might as well head to the graveyard now.

[Johnco]

Unless you have experienced 1st hand the devastation that drugs can cause families and communities,it would be unfair to pass judgement on people who have seen this as bullshit,a 1 off case,blame the parents or the kids who got hooked.

It's 1 thing getting a bit of weed from a sound bloke you know or in a bar,it's a completely different thing to live in a community where hard drugs are rampant and temptation and pressure for easily lead kids is high.

[saoirsemac]

Unless you have experienced 1st hand the devastation that drugs can cause families and communities,it would be unfair to pass judgement on people who have seen this as bullshit,a 1 off case,blame the parents or the kids who got hooked.

It's 1 thing getting a bit of weed from a sound bloke you know or in a bar,it's a completely different thing to live in a community where hard drugs are rampant and temptation and pressure for easily lead kids is high.

and drink? in poor socioeconmic areas drink would be the highest and most commonly comsumed drug eiither as lone drug or mixed with other harder drugs,

the problem here is not drugs, its the econmical and life factors, you wont rid drugs, thats a notion proven to fail, however to these areas you can introduce education, make the next generation sink higher education and work not benifits

btw, you know kids first drug is drink the most commonly consumed by teens is drink

this is legal, and more distructive than some illegal naroctics, i feel for your losses i do, but if there was no herion they find something else, ive seen alcholics on the streets mixing white spirts with water to drink,

there will always and forever been addicts, and in areas of economical depression high unemployment, sadly higher indecents of abuse, but drugs are used responaible, such as social drinkers,

again im sorry but i just always see arguements like this, as a reason to not talk about legalising drugs the same as me been told im trafficked and been raped...

your last line, the problem is not drugs, its your community, im sure its not the case of a middle class neighbour hood falling into shite over herion.. or is it a case of inner city know lowerclass areas, i say that without trying to be rude btw or judging

the problems where there before herion ever came in, those problems just allowed an easy spread,

fix your community and you see a decline in dealers grabbing kiddies form playgrounds to inject them with smack

[Westsidex]

Its a combination of drugs amplified with drink that causes the probs to society in most cases. Its always a combination of things. Most heavy drug users are on so much you couldnt even pin point the problematic drugs and they usually drink heavily too. Its rare to get a drug user who doesnt drink a lot too.

Westside.

[Sancho Panza]

Unless you have experienced 1st hand the devastation that drugs can cause families and communities,it would be unfair to pass judgement on people who have seen this as bullshit,a 1 off case,blame the parents or the kids who got hooked.

It's 1 thing getting a bit of weed from a sound bloke you know or in a bar,it's a completely different thing to live in a community where hard drugs are rampant and temptation and pressure for easily lead kids is high.

Rachel Moran might argue:

Unless you have experienced 1st hand the devastation that prostitution can cause families and communities,it would be unfair to pass judgement on people who have seen this as bullshit,a 1 off case,blame the parents or the kids who got trafficked.

It's 1 thing having casual sex with a sound bloke you know or met in a bar,it's a completely different thing to live in a community where prostitution is rampant and temptation and pressure for easily lead kids is high.

Different topic, same bullshit argument.

What you have to ask yourself is whether the prohibition of recreational drugs - including "hard" ones like heroin - is making life in such communities better or worse? It would also be worthwhile to explore why people abuse drugs in the first place. For example, there is still a persistent stigma attached to mental health issues. Indeed, I think this stigma is one of the reasons why most young men in particular drink heavily in order to cope with stress, depression, etc. If the government were actually serious about minimizing the abuse of recreational drugs, it might consider legalising, regulating and taxing the drugs trade. The tax revenue could be used for education and rehabilitation programmes. This would probably be too radical a policy for Enda Kenny and co., but at least he could honour his commitment in the Programme for Government to invest €35million annually in community mental health services.

[Westsidex]

Rachel Moran might argue:



Different topic, same bullshit argument.

What you have to ask yourself is whether the prohibition of recreational drugs - including "hard" ones like heroin - is making life in such communities better or worse? It would also be worthwhile to explore why people abuse drugs in the first place. For example, there is still a persistent stigma attached to mental health issues. Indeed, I think this stigma is one of the reasons why most young men in particular drink heavily in order to cope with stress, depression, etc. If the government were actually serious about minimizing the abuse of recreational drugs, it might consider legalising, regulating and taxing the drugs trade. The tax revenue could be used for education and rehabilitation programmes. This would probably be too radical a policy for Enda Kenny and co., but at least he could honour his commitment in the Programme for Government to invest €35million annually in community mental health services.

It has little to do with mental health issues or even the commuinity. It has to do in most cases with who you keep company with. You become pretty much what you hang around with. This is why so many people find it hard to stop drinking because it usually means cutting ties with those you know ,who drink. Some people dont deal much with peer pressure while others do.The only exception is drugs for sports.

Westside.

[Sancho Panza]

It has little to do with mental health issues or even the commuinity. It has to do in most cases with who you keep company with. You become pretty much what you hang around with. This is why so many people find it hard to stop drinking because it usually means cutting ties with those you know ,who drink. Some people dont deal much with peer pressure while others do.The only exception is drugs for sports.

Westside.

So if I spend most of my time with my pet dog, I'll start licking my balls and humping strangers' legs?

[saoirsemac]

So if I spend most of my time with my pet dog, I'll start licking my balls and humping strangers' legs?

i like the cut of your gib

[warmcome]

America was the seat of the war on drugs, special agents, armies spraying of crops
internationally. there are twice as many users in the world as ten years previously.

when you see America voting to legalise in Washington and Colorado, one must
realize the war on soft drugs, at least has been lost.

[Sancho Panza]

i like the cut of your gib

Why, thank you, Saoirse! That made my day. If I may say so, you've got a rather nice jib yourself.