How far would you go to prove your submission?

[slavetoyou]

I would say you get two camps here. The curious and the lifestyle. Some people have a mild fetish and curiousity towards things and once their curiousity has been quenched, they happily move on to more vanilla things, where perhaps they may incorporate a little of their fetish into their real world when given the opportunity.

The lifestyle type tend to gravitate towards others who are of similar nature and tend to socialise with people who then may become a part of their everyday life or become a secret side to their life. If it is a secret, then they are limited to what they can endure, although some get a kick from the possibility of being caught out and perhaps in some ways they do want to be caught out, so they can commit themselves more fully to their life choice.

Then in retrospect you have a third type, who jumped in with both feet and found themselves embroiled with the full Monty and having found themselves there, realised that it wasn't really them in full and not the lifestyle they actually want, but they are so deeply involved, how do they get back out?

For some people the fantasy is more real that the reality, for others the reality is why they need the fantasy. We are complicated creatures to say the least.

Very well put. Yes we truly are complicated creatures, so I suppose the secret is to find a balance somewhere between fantasy and reality and only go as far as you will not regret. For some people this may not be easy and for others it may be very easy. We are all "sane and responsible" adults so should be able decide and endure the consequences of how we choose to live our lives. After all it will be "you" who has to live with your life so "you" may as well enjoy it.
With regard to "vanilla" I prefer it strawberry flavoured, covered in chocolate sauce, covered in hundreds and thousands with two sparklers to top it off. It tastes so much better!!!

[slavetoyou]

You seem very curious about this subject. Is it something you have, wanted too or are just curious about? Have you "sunk" to any particular level?

Jack78, you've gone all quite. Did I touch a nerve??

[jack78]

Jack78, you've gone all quite. Did I touch a nerve??

Oops, you didnt touch a nerve, I was just off thread.

Yes, it is an area that interests me, I've played around with variations on the theme, being a sub to tv/ts etc but never actually the straight up forced bi.

Have you ever done some cum play as part of your sessions with your mistress

[slavetoyou]

Oops, you didnt touch a nerve, I was just off thread.

Yes, it is an area that interests me, I've played around with variations on the theme, being a sub to tv/ts etc but never actually the straight up forced bi.

Have you ever done some cum play as part of your sessions with your mistress

Forced Bi wasn't as bad as I thought it would be but it's not something I'm that interested in. If my Mistress requires that I would do it then that's another story. Never been with a TV/TS, would be more inclined I think to go for a TS but that's just what I think I could consider. Again not sure if I would or not.

I can't really answer your last question as a "gentleman" never discusses what happens with a lady, especially with a Mistress unless I get permission. Lets just say I have done quite a lot of things with quite a lot of escorts and Mistresses over the years before I ever became a slave to my new Mistress.

[jack78]

Forced Bi wasn't as bad as I thought it would be but it's not something I'm that interested in. If my Mistress requires that I would do it then that's another story. Never been with a TV/TS, would be more inclined I think to go for a TS but that's just what I think I could consider. Again not sure if I would or not.

I can't really answer your last question as a "gentleman" never discusses what happens with a lady, especially with a Mistress unless I get permission. Lets just say I have done quite a lot of things with quite a lot of escorts and Mistresses over the years before I ever became a slave to my new Mistress.

So what wouldnt you do for your mistress?

[slavetoyou]

So what wouldnt you do for your mistress?

There is nothing I wouldn't do for my Mistress. "Her wish is my command", I take my signature very seriously and I'm quite sure my Mistress is fully aware of how serious I do take my role.
Do you want to be a "slave or sub"? Or is it more to do with the Bi part that excites you. You definitely seem inclined that way, so is that as far as you would go for a Mistress as that is really what you want? What's out of your comfort zone that you could consider "forced" or to actually "submit control" to a Mistress, how far would you go?
We have all different tolerances but you have to be willing to push these to please a Mistress. We all have limits, and it is a Mistresses role to push them and the role of a slave to be pushed. Now as we are willing participants a good Mistress will not "make" a slave do something that will cause real harm to their well being hence why people use safe words etc. Thankfully I do not use a safe word as having no limits (so far anyway) I rely on a "Very Good Mistress, in fact Excellent Mistress to set my limits"
I'll let your imagination run with that one.

[jack78]

There is nothing I wouldn't do for my Mistress. "Her wish is my command", I take my signature very seriously and I'm quite sure my Mistress is fully aware of how serious I do take my role.
Do you want to be a "slave or sub"? Or is it more to do with the Bi part that excites you. You definitely seem inclined that way, so is that as far as you would go for a Mistress as that is really what you want? What's out of your comfort zone that you could consider "forced" or to actually "submit control" to a Mistress, how far would you go?
We have all different tolerances but you have to be willing to push these to please a Mistress. We all have limits, and it is a Mistresses role to push them and the role of a slave to be pushed. Now as we are willing participants a good Mistress will not "make" a slave do something that will cause real harm to their well being hence why people use safe words etc. Thankfully I do not use a safe word as having no limits (so far anyway) I rely on a "Very Good Mistress, in fact Excellent Mistress to set my limits"
I'll let your imagination run with that one.

It really isn't the bi bit that interests me,I guess for me that represents the greatest possible submission to mistress, I've done the body worship, strapon training etc so i am just looking for the next level of sub and humiliation. Sounds like you have a soe Ia, relationship with your mistress. Have you tried mistress 4 u? She is amazing, and back in town next week, you should go, she will stretch your limits!

[slavetoyou]

It really isn't the bi bit that interests me,I guess for me that represents the greatest possible submission to mistress, I've done the body worship, strapon training etc so i am just looking for the next level of sub and humiliation. Sounds like you have a soe Ia, relationship with your mistress. Have you tried mistress 4 u? She is amazing, and back in town next week, you should go, she will stretch your limits!

I suppose everyone's idea of total submission is different. Like you what gets me is always trying to go to the next level. I can't not stress enough to my Mistress how much I enjoy being her slave so I find I'm constantly try to prove my total and utter submission. The more I submit the more I need to prove it, so the more I submit again the more I need to prove and the more I submit..... you know how it goes by now I think. That's where my original question came from really, how far can you go to prove submission? We slaves have it tough.......
Mistress 4u looks good alright but as another act of submission I now only see my Mistress and no one else and it doesn't matter how long between her tours it is. I usually make up for it when she does arrive. A sort of voluntary celibacy you could call it. But it is worth the wait.

[jack78]

I suppose everyone's idea of total submission is different. Like you what gets me is always trying to go to the next level. I can't not stress enough to my Mistress how much I enjoy being her slave so I find I'm constantly try to prove my total and utter submission. The more I submit the more I need to prove it, so the more I submit again the more I need to prove and the more I submit..... you know how it goes by now I think. That's where my original question came from really, how far can you go to prove submission? We slaves have it tough.......
Mistress 4u looks good alright but as another act of submission I now only see my Mistress and no one else and it doesn't matter how long between her tours it is. I usually make up for it when she does arrive. A sort of voluntary celibacy you could call it. But it is worth the wait.

I get that but really you are missing out here, m4 is an amazing lady, she can get inside your head and within minutes of our first appointment she knew me better that I knew myself, she could push buttons I didn't even know I had.
You could go see her, just to see how it goes and if for some reason you decide to go back to your old mistress, you tell her about it, just think of the punishment she will give you!!

[slavetoyou]

I get that but really you are missing out here, m4 is an amazing lady, she can get inside your head and within minutes of our first appointment she knew me better that I knew myself, she could push buttons I didn't even know I had.
You could go see her, just to see how it goes and if for some reason you decide to go back to your old mistress, you tell her about it, just think of the punishment she will give you!!

I'm sure Mistress 4u is as good as you say but I have given a commitment. You see when I begged my Mistress to allow me to become her slave I really wanted to be her slave. I feel that you can only have one Mistress, so when I was accepted as her slave I had totally submitted to her. As another way to prove my submission I chose not to see any other escorts no matter how tempting they maybe. I have seen many escorts but my Mistress was the only one that I really wanted to be her slave. I cannot be a slave for a couple of hours during a session and then leave and see some other escort, that's not right. If you are just a sub well that's fine but if you are a slave then you must be loyal. It helps with being submissive as you must always deny temptation and be loyal so you are always in role. I will admit that I have been tempted by some escorts profiles and pics( not many but maybe 2 or 3 ) but I will not give in as when I see my Mistress it is totally worth the denial. Even though you say I am missing out really I am not. I am lucky to be allowed to serve a beautiful Mistress and I will only treat her with total respect, so when I tell my Mistress that I will do something then I will do it. In these relationships as consenting adults there really is no hold over each other only what each wants it to be. But I feel myself that I must be totally loyal to my Mistress and this helps satisfy my need to serve a beautiful woman and to make her life some bit easier when I am requested to do so. So as I said I really am not missing out on anything, in fact my situation is something I have only dreamed about but now is a reality and its good.
I don't mean to dismiss your suggestion, in fact thanks for it but I cannot act on it. Above are the reasons why.