Who Books These Women?

[jessie]

Kate do not get me wrong here. Maybe I express myself wrong. I am not talking about my feeling towards man in general. I mean punters, man who visit escorts. The reviews many times reflect those things that a lot of them don´t care only about the service. They do not ask themselves why the girl was tired, not in mood, seems like not want to be there, why they are more people in the house etc etc. Still they go on with the service and then after they go on here saying all bad about the girl. Instead they don´t ask themselves what could be wrong with the girl. They only think about themselves. Of course there are many nice punter as well and that does care. But I was talking to the many that does not care and selfish.

There maybe some out there like that, but I don't think you are talking about the majority of clients. I know that many of the clients I have met, have seen other ladies, so I am not unique in who I see and they have been charming, caring and careful with considering who they are meeting. Maybe 2 or 3 times I have been upset, because of time wasters or something that has happened at home and the client has picked up on my mood and couldn't have been nicer and more sensitive with me. I even had one who let me cry in his arms and I've seen him many times since.

It is sad that you feel that about men, but I'm glad that I can't agree with you.

[Curvaceous Kate]

Kate do not get me wrong here. Maybe I express myself wrong. I am not talking about my feeling towards man in general. I mean punters, man who visit escorts. The reviews many times reflect those things that a lot of them don´t care only about the service. They do not ask themselves why the girl was tired, not in mood, seems like not want to be there, why they are more people in the house etc etc. Still they go on with the service and then after they go on here saying all bad about the girl. Instead they don´t ask themselves what could be wrong with the girl. They only think about themselves. Of course there are many nice punter as well and that does care. But I was talking to the many that does not care and selfish.

Yes that is what I thought you meant. I guess to be fair to the men, when you go into a hair dressers, you don't want to hear about their problems at home and if you go to a restaurant you don't want to hear about the waiter having a bad day, so as a service provider, this is not what they are expecting to have to concern themselves with. Having said that, I have had many, many instances during my work time, where clients have picked up on my mood and been very considerate.

I know there are bad people out there, I just don't think it is fair to tarnish them all with the same brush, as that has not been my experience on the whole.

Would you not agree that there is at least a mix of clientele?

[jessie]

There is a mix of clientele Kate but I found that more and more inconsiderate punters around.
Hence all the many abusive calls, hassle to girls, bad reviews, demanding guys and all this is increasing with the months, years I notice. Kate maybe you are lucky you encounter only nice and considerate guys in general. I must say I encounter mostly nice ones as well. Maybe we are good in weeding out the bad ones or we are not interesting enough for them. But don´t stick your head in the sand Kate. Look around and see how many disrespectful and inconsiderate punters many other girls has to deal with it daily. Punters that don´t care about the lady but only themselves.

Yes that is what I thought you meant. I guess to be fair to the men, when you go into a hair dressers, you don't want to hear about their problems at home and if you go to a restaurant you don't want to hear about the waiter having a bad day, so as a service provider, this is not what they are expecting to have to concern themselves with. Having said that, I have had many, many instances during my work time, where clients have picked up on my mood and been very considerate.

I know there are bad people out there, I just don't think it is fair to tarnish them all with the same brush, as that has not been my experience on the whole.

Would you not agree that there is at least a mix of clientele?

[Curvaceous Kate]

There is a mix of clientele Kate but I found that more and more inconsiderate punters around.
Hence all the many abusive calls, hassle to girls, bad reviews, demanding guys and all this is increasing with the months, years I notice. Kate maybe you are lucky you encounter only nice and considerate guys in general. I must say I encounter mostly nice ones as well. Maybe we are good in weeding out the bad ones or we are not interesting enough for them. But don´t stick your head in the sand Kate. Look around and see how many disrespectful and inconsiderate punters many other girls has to deal with it daily. Punters that don´t care about the lady but only themselves.

I'm not sticking my head in the sand, I am aware there are bad ones too and I can appreciate that possibly not having a language barrier makes me harder to abuse and take advantage of, so likely English being my first language is to my advantage too. I just didn't want it to sound like there was only one type of punter and not a good one at that.

[gamey27]

This something I wonder about too. How does such an operation work when decent clients and nosey neighbours would surely rumble them? How do they lure customers? Who would want to see bruised, malnourished and distressed women for sex?

I suspect this is a fabricated/highly exaggerated story to coincide with morrow's bill

Was wondering that myself.

The only way this could work is if they were advertising only to a small ring of men who want to have sex with an unwilling trafficking victim. Somehow I doubt that is common, though of course there's examples of worse things going in in the world so I'm sure it happens.

I don't know how it could work mainstream. Firstly, most normal clients either wouldn't go ahead with booking or wouldn't return and then there'd have to be some who inform the police. It would surely unravel quite quickly

[davidhaveone]

I do believe this story. There are lots of sick individuals around. Unfortunately Ireland is full of them.
And the clients, most of them do not care. How many times they go visit girls that are offering their service in an obvious not so nice environment, the girl is tired, in bad mood, giving hurried service, not really engaged with the client, more people in the apartment and so on and on. And still the clients keep ignoring the many obvious signs and the only thing they has on their mind is satisfying their cock. And that´s the nature of man when it comes to sex and woman. A very selfish nature with only one goal, shot my load and get my erect penis down.

such a sexist view on it all.. you say "and that's the nature of man" generalisation is wrong and men can be as guilty when it comes to women..

[ana massage]

There is a mix of clientele Kate but I found that more and more inconsiderate punters around.
Hence all the many abusive calls, hassle to girls, bad reviews, demanding guys and all this is increasing with the months, years I notice. Kate maybe you are lucky you encounter only nice and considerate guys in general. I must say I encounter mostly nice ones as well. Maybe we are good in weeding out the bad ones or we are not interesting enough for them. But don´t stick your head in the sand Kate. Look around and see how many disrespectful and inconsiderate punters many other girls has to deal with it daily. Punters that don´t care about the lady but only themselves.

maybe you have bad luck

[longtipp]

I do believe this story, even though I don't know of any such place. Someone like me is unlikely to stumble across such a den. A guy would likely need to mix in different circles, and have a history of violent behavour before being invited to such a den.

[Jack in the Box]

If they were the living conditions of that 25 year old woman the vast majority of people no matter who they are would be repulsed by them and would want them stopped if they had any backbone.

Clients and sex workers alike should sign a petition with a statement on it that they are in favour of zero tolerance of abuse or disrespect of escorts and zero tolerance of Ruhama and the ICI trying to put the very large amount of sex workers operating willingly into the same category as those who are genuine victims of injustice. Plus zero tolerance of them using language to portray the facts completely wrongly and misleading the public by giving the wrong impression etc. Kate caught them out red handed doing that with their Youtube video.

This petition could then be given to journalists or anyone else of prominence.

[milkman]

There's no doubt stories like this do exist but are very rare as such depravity requires complete compliciyness from every man involved. If only one man is correctly appalled at the situation , the police are rightly immediately called.
As previous have said, the rapists involved are likely to be very close knit and almost certainly have a history of violence behind them . And we're all conscious of the many men in this country who beat/intimidate wives or abuse animals or who have committed rape - all acts of barbarity which most people would be traumatised upon seeing.

What this trafficking scenario does demand however is complete evidential truth and honesty as regards what is the most effective means of combatting such horrific abuse. And what really really sickens me is when the antis deliberately ignore the downside of the Swedish model , refusing to disclose the negative consequences of the law simply to demand their ideology be adopted and so exploit the horrific experience of this woman for their own means.

Said it before and i'll say it again - i'll support any legislation (incl Swedish model) provided that it is the evidentially shown as the most effective way of protecting those in prostitution whilst combattting the abuses. After all ,my enjoyment is a far far far second compared to safety of sex workers. But when the antis see fit to mislead in order to incur their ideology........

Interesting what Jessie said about men who punt.A feew sex workers i've met have said that their opinions of men that purchase sex is lessened than other men.Obv other sex workers opinions may differ. The thing is a client that sneers or insults an escort is much more likely to linger in the memory and affect self-esteem than the clients who may compliment . We're all the same that way - we brush off compliments given to us but the insult can cut us right through - that's probably even more nuanced in the case of sex wokers who already are stigmatised by society for what they do .