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    Exclamation Apartments ARE Safer!!

    Apartments are much safer than hotels for all the reasons that Carlos pointed out .................. the most recent and most savage physical attacks on escorts have all happened in hotels so that goes a long way to shattering the illusion of hotels being in any way safer.

    The safest option is to share an apartment of course and it's impossible for two escorts to share one hotel room.
    And I know it's technically illegal for more than one girl to work from an apartment but it's also technically illegal to pay for anything more than an escorts "time and companionship" so blind eyes are turned all the time in this business ........... even the Garda turn a blind eye to escorts sharing apartments if they realise it's for safety reasons.

    Highwayman made a good point ............. wealthy woman-hating bastards are still woman-hating bastards so their money won't protect an escort in any way whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpaws View Post
    ...I know it's technically illegal for more than one girl to work from an apartment...
    Correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigpaws View Post
    ...but it's also technically illegal to pay for anything more than an escorts "time and companionship"
    Incorrect. It is perfectly legal to pay for sex in Ireland. We have our legal reasons for going into the "time and companionship only" blurb at times, but if a client pays an escort for sex neither has done anything wrong in the eyes of the law.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigpaws View Post
    ...even the Garda turn a blind eye to escorts sharing apartments if they realise it's for safety reasons.
    Have to disagree. We often see cases of two girls getting done for running a brothel, despite the fact there is no suggestion anyone else was involved or they were anything more than two girls working together for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patricia View Post
    Correct.



    Incorrect. It is perfectly legal to pay for sex in Ireland. We have our legal reasons for going into the "time and companionship only" blurb at times, but if a client pays an escort for sex neither has done anything wrong in the eyes of the law.



    Have to disagree. We often see cases of two girls getting done for running a brothel, despite the fact there is no suggestion anyone else was involved or they were anything more than two girls working together for themselves.
    Thanks for the paying for sex info Pat .............. it's always been a bit of a grey area for me ............. I'll still double check with my solicitor first though just in case!!!

    As for the Garda turning a blind eye .............. I know for a fact that they do turn a blind eye and they do it on a constant basis. It's not very difficult to find and arrest two or more girls working from one apartment but it happens rarely ............ ask yourself why.
    When they do arrest two Independent Escorts working from one apartment with the "operating a brothel" excuse you can be certain that there are other mitigating reasons for the girls being prevented from working ............. not in every case of course but in most.
    I'm not guessing here Pat, I happen to know this is the case ........... at least in Dublin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpaws View Post
    As for the Garda turning a blind eye .............. I know for a fact that they do turn a blind eye and they do it on a constant basis. It's not very difficult to find and arrest two or more girls working from one apartment but it happens rarely ............ ask yourself why.
    When they do arrest two Independent Escorts working from one apartment with the "operating a brothel" excuse you can be certain that there are other mitigating reasons for the girls being prevented from working ............. not in every case of course but in most.
    I'm not guessing here Pat, I happen to know this is the case ........... at least in Dublin.

    Paws
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    I can see your point that they often turn a blind eye, but they don't always. So from an escort's point of view, there is always the risk that they won't turn a blind eye.

    Pat x

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patricia View Post
    Hi,

    I can see your point that they often turn a blind eye, but they don't always. So from an escort's point of view, there is always the risk that they won't turn a blind eye.

    Pat x
    If the escorts are good girls and don't force the Guards to get involved with them by bringing too much attention on themselves then they shouldn't have any problems at all Pat ............. don't attract the attention of the neighbours, don't invite unsavoury characters into your apartment, don't abuse clients in any way etc. I could go on but you get the picture ladies!!

    Anyway the very very small risk of being arrested on a minor charge is a much better deal than the risks of working alone in a hotel room ................

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpaws View Post
    the most recent and most savage physical attacks on escorts have all happened in hotels so that goes a long way to shattering the illusion of hotels being in any way safer.
    Where did u get that bullshit??
    What I know, I never heard before about any attack in the hotel. Maybe one.
    What I know, it was all in an apartment.
    Just from fucking March I know about 10 another nasty attacks and robbery, rape, kill, whatever from that kind of shit..
    And all it was happened just in apartments!!

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    Cool What You Don't Know Brenda ................

    Quote Originally Posted by Brenda Beauty Babe View Post
    Where did u get that bullshit??
    What I know, I never heard before about any attack in the hotel. Maybe one.
    What I know, it was all in an apartment.
    Just from fucking March I know about 10 another nasty attacks and robbery, rape, kill, whatever from that kind of shit..
    And all it was happened just in apartments!!
    And I know of many many more incidents in hotel rooms ............. some minor incidents but they could have been, as in your case, a lot worse.
    The point is escorts have the option to work in pairs in apartments, legal or not ............. they don't have that same option in a hotel room.

    Remind me Brenda, were you attacked in a hotel room or an apartment???????

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    I tought the law said thw girls in the same building.... hence all those girls got done in Limrick.....
    I think, if the police want to do you for something, they will find a reason...
    I think the flippin papers are just advertising violant activities to idiots, who read it and think.... oh yes it's easy money. Lets go and do an escort over, she is a woman after all.
    I think we all have our own preferences weather we want to stay in hotelsor apartments, so there is no rhyme or reason.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    I tought the law said thw girls in the same building.... hence all those girls got done in Limrick.....
    I think, if the police want to do you for something, they will find a reason...
    I think the flippin papers are just advertising violant activities to idiots, who read it and think.... oh yes it's easy money. Lets go and do an escort over, she is a woman after all.
    I think we all have our own preferences weather we want to stay in hotelsor apartments, so there is no rhyme or reason.....
    xxx
    Actually you're right Kat!!

    If the Guards want to stop an escort from working for whatever reason then they will find a way ............
    If an escort believes she is safer working in a hotel then no matter what she's told she won't listen ..........
    And if some lad wants to smash a particular escorts skull in then he will do it no matter were she's staying .............

    Good luck ladies!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpaws View Post
    If the escorts are good girls and don't force the Guards to get involved with them by bringing too much attention on themselves then they shouldn't have any problems at all Pat ............. don't attract the attention of the neighbours, don't invite unsavoury characters into your apartment, don't abuse clients in any way etc. I could go on but you get the picture ladies!!
    [1] I would like to see the law changed so ladies don't need to rely on the Garda turning a blind eye

    [2] The Garda frequently have their own agendas, there is politics, the media, bent cops... I can't agree with you that if a couple of working ladies sharing an apartment keep their heads down, they should have no problems. For the most part this may be true, I hope it is mostly true, but it is not always the case.

    Pat x

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