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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyCurvybabe View Post
    I have not had proper internet access for a week now
    and im sorry for posting this in public but I feel I have to as to be quite honest im sick to the fucking teeth of all the bullshit and lies and nastiness

    this keeps being brought up time and time again when im not online to set the record straight so im doing it now once and for all

    Rachel posted this on https://www.escort-ireland.com/board...ighlight=kelly

    "You are unreal woman!
    Kelly did not reply to my texts, inviting her to the hearings, she didnt answer my calls.
    Was it the ego too big and she wanted to get in by herself?
    Laura Lee is not active in Ireland, she tours here sometimes. "



    Rachel contacted me through pm and said she was hoping to go to the meeting and she would love me to be there with her
    I replied I had sent swai and the chairman emails asking to attend and hoped they would invite me so I could go as well

    I was doing a questionnaire to include all escorts and invited everyone to join in and help, I was basically told by Rachel it was stupid and then I received nastiness from stephinene on a power trip and a couple of other girls, I was tired I was working very hard on the report with a couple of other ladies, and after the abuse I threw the towel in and handed over all my research to another lady who said she would Finish it and sent it to the relevant parties

    I was extremely tired and upset it was a Friday and I was very busy in mayo
    after a client I noticed I had two missed calls from Rachel and one text saying its Rachel and when was I available to talk

    I told her I was waiting on my next client and to call back in 45 min as he should be gone by then

    the client came and extended to the hour and he didn't leave till over an hour and half as im afraid to say I was enjoying his company after such a brutal week

    it was getting late and I have previously organised to meet another lady to have a chat as I needed it, so as soon as the client left I jumped into the shower and got ready to head out. I whent out got drunk on 2 ciders lol and chatted to the early hours of the morning.

    that was it I didn't intentionally avoid rachels calls and one text,
    she did not actually invite me to the meeting,
    I was under the belief that she was calling because of the nastiness I experienced in regards to the questionnaire,
    I wasn't aware she had the power over who all was attending the meeting,
    I wasn't told when the meeting was
    as far as I was aware neary was choosing people from the submissions and swai was also choosing people I had emailed both as I thought and was told if I wanted to go these were the best channels of getting and invite

    in no way did anyone say "Kelly you have an invite to the meeting held on x at z time"

    so please stop trashing my name about, id rather not be involved in these arguments constantly brought up time and time again

    all escorts have a difference of opinion,
    and unfortunately the few escorts which have tried to help and do something to help the cause there meet with insults, nastiness and god dam fucking lazy escorts who are to lazy to pull there finger out of there asses to help them selves

    this is my last word, the wrath of Kelly will come down on who all bring me into arguments in future, if id want to be involved in these disgusting petty arguments for fame id fucking post in them myself

    I'm sick of seeing your name trashed too. I have been itching to set things straight since it was me you were with in Mayo, but it wasn't my place to meddle in your business.. I am so glad you have posted and stood up for yourself.

    Rachel is aware that you never had the collated results of the escort questionnaire. It was pointless criticising you and Kate for not handing it over to her. I made it clear to her a week ago that nobody ever held that information but me.

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    Kelly , you did not answer my calls and text , for the reasons above.

    You did not bother to text me asking what's all about.

    Took you ages to come up with an explanation after I have been repeating about you for ages on the boards while you were online.

    Wanna make yourself look good now? Very well.

    So be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel Divine View Post
    Kelly , you did not answer my calls and text , for the reasons above.

    You did not bother to text me asking what's all about.

    Took you ages to come up with an explanation after I have been repeating about you for ages on the boards while you were online.

    Wanna make yourself look good now? Very well.

    So be it.
    Kelly and I had a chat that night Rachel. We were due to attend a meeting with other escorts in Dublin the next day. During that chat I told Kelly that unfortunately I would be avoiding anything with your name on it as I had concerns about privacy and discretion. Maybe she took that on board and decided to do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKHeather View Post
    Kelly and I had a chat that night Rachel. We were due to attend a meeting with other escorts in Dublin the next day. During that chat I told Kelly that unfortunately I would be avoiding anything with your name on it as I had concerns about privacy and discretion. Maybe she took that on board and decided to do the same.
    Very well. Then why moan about not being invited with a post card?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel Divine View Post
    Very well. Then why moan about not being invited with a post card?
    I have told you how it was. Go and fight with someone else. I'm not interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    Ok all I see points from both sides this is going nowhere it's old news, to me from reading both sides it looks like a lack of cumminacation. Rachel says she made texts and calls, Kelly was working and a bit stressed ( god knows it can be at times) Kelly was weary as she was getting advice not to be involved with Rachel ( quote Heather). Kelly has made this thread in defence no harm there its good to get it off your chest, I just don't see the point at this stage to over old ground.

    Is it better to move on and learn from this and be united ( can't see it happen but you never know) Rachel went to the meeting and gave it her all and that cannot be taken away. So can we draw a line under the whole thing, move on and lets not see this turn into a bitch fest?

    No more blame game it's just boring.
    Kelly has every right to defend herself against unfair gossip. She has made ONE post and you want to shut her up.

    Wind your bloody neck in.

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    Kelly it is unfortunate that I was too far into a state of collapse to be taking things in properly...it was a funny state of mind, like having all the pieces of a jigsaw in front of me, and not being able to remember what I had to physically do to put them together.

    But what you say above makes the pieces go together now a lot easier...which is a kind of validation all by itself.

    The hard facts I can add in are:
    1. At the time SWAI were literally pestering me by email with insane stuff like offering to hand SWAI over to me then withdrawing offer when they realise I had someoe on standby to take over (they have enough through their thick heads to know I do not *do* people situations). Under which circumstance that fact that they could not be bothered to formally and directly acknowledge and respond to your email request it yet another scathing indictment against them.
    2. I knew enough about the work you were doing to VERY BADLY wqant to get you into the Justice Committee as soon as I heard about it, for our sake, because of the good it would do, and for your own sake, because it might be an opportunity for the recognition such an extraordinary personal initiative, combined with the training and determination to follow through warranted (as well as being a bit of an ould "show not tell" in it's own right )
    3. Rachel agreed with me initially then flim flamed me through the two weeks. The first step was trying to find a way to persuade here that, unless we could find a "20 minute gender re-assignment" shop (because he does, otherwise, have all atributes) Clyde was going to be a disaterous move. The second week I was not actually told in simple, plain words that Laura Lee and Kelly were not going and Stephanie was (because she needed to take someone who likes her - OY VEY!) until the last minute when there was nothing I could do except pretend everything was going to plan and hope like fuck it would SOMEHOW be ok.


    I am not going to editorialise the nastiness Kelly has been subject to...nor indeed the nastiness I have been subject to...but I will tell you all, right out here in the open that trying to function in a climate where anyone seen to be "friendly with" or "allied to" me in any way is ostracised and bullied by a small but powerful group of their colleagues played a huge part in my inability to put enough pieces together in the last week to salvage anything.

    NOTHING prevented me from contacting Kelly and Laura in that last week and bulldozing them in...except the fear that either:
    • They would be too afraid to be seen as in connection with me to even reply, at which point god know what interpreting my approach was going to add in to an already messed up mix.
    • I knew enough to know that Kelly had already taken more nastiness than she could handle and could not make myself potentially expose her to more *by being seen in alliance with me to get into the Justice Committee* which would have been best for EVERYONE - but hey...don't let that inhibit the need to persecute.


    I have to remind myself that the people responsible for this are a very small minority who live by how much control they can impose on other people. The majority of sex workers are just normal, ordinary women, a few of whom are like Kelly, capable of extraordinary things, except that as soon as their head goes over the parapet it will be shot off by what is supposedly their own side.

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    As an interested observer it seems this whole matter was very disorganised and lacking in true leadership, which is a damn shame.

    Sex workers need some kind of united group of lobbying and media presentations, but given the level of bad feeling between the escorts that want to be involved seems almost impossible.

    However I'm afraid that the end result of the committee was pretty much inevitable no matter what happened. I think the only way now is individual lobbying of politicians, emails, letters and I think most importantly face to face meetings at local clinics. Politicians are available to meet locally and putting the human face on sex workers will probably be the most important thing in this battle to counter the black propaganda of Denise Charlton, Sarah benson, justine Reilly Rachel Moran and all the others that have lied, exaggerated and are trying to mess up your lives and privacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    Ok all I see points from both sides this is going nowhere it's old news, to me from reading both sides it looks like a lack of cumminacation. Rachel says she made texts and calls, Kelly was working and a bit stressed ( god knows it can be at times) Kelly was weary as she was getting advice not to be involved with Rachel ( quote Heather). Kelly has made this thread in defence no harm there its good to get it off your chest, I just don't see the point at this stage to over old ground.

    Is it better to move on and learn from this and be united ( can't see it happen but you never know) Rachel went to the meeting and gave it her all and that cannot be taken away. So can we draw a line under the whole thing, move on and lets not see this turn into a bitch fest?

    No more blame game it's just boring.
    Clyde me darlin' we could extend that thinking to Rachel Moran, Justine Reilly and TORL if you like?

    I know you like to be the one who pours oil on troubled waters but I am afraid this is WELL past the "troubled waters" stage now. Rachel coldbloodedly sold us all out, right from the start (I even have a good idea why) and in your heart (approximately the size of Arranmore) of hearts you know that as well as I do.

    There is no progress from charades that accept enemies as friends, and, at this level, no point in them.

    Rachel has at this stage also individually, fucked over everybody in range. It is insane to ask that they pretend that has not happened. It is their individual and collective observation and experience of Rachel, it is what she has chosen to show them and the way she has chosen to treat them. They would want to be off their heads to carry on as if it never happened...

    ...especially as she has gone to the Justice Committee and the press with an attitude and ethos that could have been expensively calculated to alienate as many of them as possible. There is no way to even attempt to reverse that without fully acknowledging it, let alone while denying it.

    I put my hand up...I created that opportunity and HANDED it to her, and believe me, I will still be beating myself up over that when they lay me in my grave...

    ...but at least I have the sense not to try and hide behind "but it COULDN'T have been a mistake because I made it".

    The only plea I will make in mitigation is that there was literally NOBODY else I could have rationally handed off to and I was in a state of total collapse....and THAT is down to a little minority culture of faction fighting and bullying that I do not have the social skills to maneuver around.

    We can only be human...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dob View Post
    As an interested observer it seems this whole matter was very disorganised and lacking in true leadership, which is a damn shame.

    Sex workers need some kind of united group of lobbying and media presentations, but given the level of bad feeling between the escorts that want to be involved seems almost impossible.

    However I'm afraid that the end result of the committee was pretty much inevitable no matter what happened. I think the only way now is individual lobbying of politicians, emails, letters and I think most importantly face to face meetings at local clinics. Politicians are available to meet locally and putting the human face on sex workers will probably be the most important thing in this battle to counter the black propaganda of Denise Charlton, Sarah benson, justine Reilly Rachel Moran and all the others that have lied, exaggerated and are trying to mess up your lives and privacy.
    Totally agreed DOB...

    Sadly the only really dedicated, (to something other than self interest) effective and assertive political available all along has been me...and in case anyone is not aware of this the VERY FIRST criteria for leadership is the capacity to belong and be a member...which has always ruled me out and always will.

    NOBODY *GETS IT*. My role is that of a Terminator...I terminate the bad stuff and bigotry, insofar as I can, make people stop and think properly if they are capable of it, and spend 20 minute every night down on my KNEES praying for an actual, half genuine, leader I can hand off to for good to build up some genuinely GOOD STUFF to take it's place.

    So far, no dice...

    But time is running out...

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