Censorship on EI

[UKHeather]

I must apologise to Heather for the name-calling in this post ......... it was over the top and unneccessary to say the least.
I have a temper and somtimes I let it get the better of me ....... again apologies.

Paws

Sincerely appreciated Paws - and accepted with good grace - My apologies also - Thank you
Heather

[Quarterpoundher]

I don't understand QPH, you say that we have a right to accuse escorts of being greedy, however you feel that calling Dolly greedy was an injustice. I don't get it? Can you tell me what I'm missing?

High P,

I support the concept of genuine clients to say they feel an Escort is greedy, WHEN and only WHEN they have visited her and felt that the charge was higher then the experience, but even then that opinion is only theirs, someone else may arrive at a different conclusion. But if they felt it was bad value then I support their right to do so, but P my one and only point here is that she has suffered hugely by being accused of being greedy by people who have NOT as yet visited, I plaintively ask that you and Paws surely see the injustice in that, and as Dreamon said, no the entire country is not ringing because of this, because she has totally wrongly been caught up in this by only responding to a client, and clients DO NOT want drama, surely surely surely ye can see the wrong in this, Paws has not as yet responded to this in the manner I expected, maybe he is inquiring privately I do no know, but I am shocked and truly disappointed if he cannot see my argument here as to date I have seen him highlight things based on info he has from various sources, but he HAS contributed to destroying a Woman’s business and her life by his words, either intentionally or otherwise, and if he does not try to rectify this error with the same vigor that he pursues other issues then I condemn utterly his moral fibre, code, compass and sense of fair play and ethics, totally and utterly and will have soon in his indifference to be wholly unworthy of his position of power and influence, Its pains me deeply to write this, I think highly of him, I pray he does he right and decent thing here, that is as clear as I can make it P, the issue here is does someone have the right to destroy someone (unintentionally or otherwise) based on their beliefs alone and not on hard facts and then just wash their hands off it and not either respond or try to remedy the damage done, his silence his failure to date is damming and sinister, it will simply not do to just stay stum, stick to the mantra of greed and wait for this to all disappear and leave Dolly to pick up the pieces on her own, our words have consequences, if nothing is done here to remedy this after I have explained the issue over and over again then it shows cowardice in the extreme. I know he has a conscience, all I asked is that he follows it as he did in another matter, that is all. Maybe he is doing so behind the scenes, I hope his sake if not Dolly’s that he is, my conscience is clear, if he does not act now, he will never be able to clear it as he did in other matters, this one cannot wait…I am tying to highlight my point here as much for his sake as for Dolly’s, why cannot a man of such intelligence and thought for Escort’s not see the wrong that was done here, she should be cut some slack here, be allowed to develop a rep. here and then by all means if found to be overcharging, say so, but not before she even starts, what is the difference between stopping someone before they can get established by condemning then on no information and what a Pimp does to intimidate a Woman to leave?, answer me that, the end result is exactly the same, is it not? IE less competition, and hence less possibility to drive down price, which is exactly contrary to Paws stated goal of lowering rates, less people in any business means less competition, simple as that, I actually seem to be the ONLY person here able to treat this 100% in business terms, a lot of ye want all the benefits of a business approach, but none of the downsides, that I submit is a viral case of “the Irish Mammy syndrome” IE yer to fucking used to getting yer own way all your lives, and don’t like a Woman being in charge, well guess what lads, its the 21st centurey and Woman are finally but slowly gaining parity with men. DEAL WITH or to put another way, PISS OR GET OFF THE POT.

[bigpaws]

I am a fucking idiot, so can you please explain how good escorts are going to be encouraged to come here by you trying to dictate how much they can charge for their services. Look around you, the world is driven by the desire of the individual to get ahead by working harder and giving a better service. What effect would your "one price fits all" policy have on say professional football. Russia and China tried your policy for many years. They have accepted that it did not work, why cant you?

The Good Escorts ARE already coming here and providing the best services available for the standard rates ........... but if they see other girls ripping off clients then they will feel short-changed leading to them raising their prices which in turn will eventually lead to a punter base unable to financially support the escort business in this country causing the Good (but now over-priced) Escorts to pack up and leave ........... and we will be left with cheap, trafficked, forced sex-for-sale.

Paws

[bigpaws]

I assure you I UNDERSTAND PERFECTLY where you are coming from Paws, I am not stupid, I can read perfectly well, how many times do I have to say how in support of your aims I am and my reasons for so supporting?

But in this you have done a disservice,

I hold you to my request to help Dolly here because both your and P’s words alone here have caused her phone to stop ringing for the first time REGARDLESS OF HER BEING MORE EXPENPENSIVE simply because she responded to someone willing to pay more.

THIS IS MY POINT…..she now suffers the same implications as Naomi even though….

SHE DID NOT…

1
AIDE IN SOMEONE’S DEATH

2
DID NOT BLEED THEM DRY

3
DID NOT INFORM THE GUARDS ON CLIENTS

4
DID NOT THREATEN OTHER ESCORTS

5
DID NOT BLACKMAIL CLIENTS

She did none of this, she just responded to a clients request, and because of that simple thing she has suffered a similar fate in relation to business, and is in tears.

HOW CAN THAT POSSIBLY BE JUSTIFIED??????????????????

You have a brain Paws, a fine one, have you a heart to match?, you have caused the same problems here for her unjustly as you have for another justly.

I ask you as the gentleman you are to aide her, she can prove privately to either Pat or Me or others of her chossing who she can thrust that she is an absolute star of this arena back home, with glowing reviews by people there, but cannot make them public for very valid reasons.

You say you see the bigger picture here, if you do them what was done to her here is totally at odds with creating an atmosphere to promote free and independent people, (regardless of rate) what was done here did not aide price control it ONLY aided pimps, that is self evident, and if allowed to go unchecked will be of huge detriment to things for all, can you not step out from your cloud of greed control and do some blue sky thinking on this?

I defend utterly a Woman’s right to decide anything, anywhere, not to be able to do so can as I know lead directly to the grave, you may know about punting Paws, but I know about crying, I listened to it for 15 years, day and night, man and boy, I also know crocodile tears, I saw it perfected to near art form, so thrust me on this, Dolly is very and genuinely upset, she has done nothing wrong, I hold you to my request of you to help her and rectify your wrong in this matter, if you do not, that is your choice, but you will have plummeted in my respect for you to a depth comparable to how highly I hold you now. This place has become almost overnight a little boys club on this, just like the other site. I have for that reason not uttered a single syllable over there, I will not here either if this gross injustice is allowed to stand.

I beg you to be the man I have feel you to be, fair and honest, I believe she has it within her to be one of the shining lights of this arena here, it is for clients to decide if they wish to pay whatever they want, not you, not I, not no one, I implore you to continue to name whom ever you feel is greedy, Dolly included if you think that, it is a vital component of how people can gauge what they feel they are prepared to pay, I support you totally in that and other regards, but what was done her to Dolly was plain WRONG not because of her rates, but because of the huge negative effect it has had for ONLY responding to a Man WANTING to pay more.

If you cannot see that simple point Paws, then I truly despair….I am very upset by this, I ask you to give deep thought on this, you may be correct in your claim of greed, i do not know, that is the crux of the whole thing, NO ONE knows, but you are utterly wrong if you do nothing to try to remedy the impications that have befell her from your words, be man enough to admit that, you know I am right if you have the brain I know you to have. I fear you won’t because I have never actually seen you concede a fair point on anything, you just brush over it and move on, well not on this, your words which do much to make this an honorable place to do business have on this occasion destroyed an innocent Woman who as yet has not been shown to be deserving of such serious ramifications that have followed from your words

I BEG you to do the right thing here, if you do not I will have no choice but to hold you in as much contempt as I currently hold you in respect and esteem, I am not telling you Paws, I am begging you, this is not right, no one can destroy someone’s career solely on “perceived” greed and for only responding.

If you respond with the same old mantra of greed Paws and not to the injustice that I have gone to pains to explain above, then regretfully and with real sorrow, I will not utter a syllable in your direction, and it hurts me to say that, but I have to try and impress on you the wrong that was done here.

Surely the forum and you can see the logic in what I say, if there are any men among you, which I know there are, then speak now, or concede that you are not the lovers of Women that you profess to be…your silence will be damning to both the health of this place and the well being of the Women here if this is allowed to stand, I want no part in it……DO YOU???

I cannot explain it any clearer then this, I will not waste my time again if you cannot both grasp and respond to this matter and this matter alone.

VBR…QPH…

I wish you would stop focusing on Dolly ........... her services are irrelevant to this greed issue and her past history is not the current topic of discussion.

You want me to help Dolly??? Ok ........ I'll help her in the only way I can at present, I will give her some good sound advise .............. Dolly lower your prices to the standard 150/250 euros for a fully inclusive service (OWO etc.) and by all means charge extra for fetish services (such as Anal). Do this and you will have shown that you respect Irish punters and other excellent escorts who tour/work in Ireland.

Now QPH tell me what more I can do to help Dolly??? ALL I have done is labelled her a Greedy Escort which you say I'm entitled to do as it is only my opinion .......... I have NOT said anything else negative about her or her services of which I have no knowledge personally.

Paws

[bigpaws]

I don't understand QPH, you say that we have a right to accuse escorts of being greedy, however you feel that calling Dolly greedy was an injustice. I don't get it? Can you tell me what I'm missing?

That is the confusing part for me too ............ QPH???

Paws

[bigpaws]

"She did none of this, she just responded to a clients request, and because of that simple thing she has suffered a similar fate in relation to business, and is in tears.

HOW CAN THAT POSSIBLY BE JUSTIFIED??????????????????".......QPH

You need to stand back a bit and see the bigger picture. At this point in time Dolly's arse is the biggest attraction in the country. Men and women will be coming from far and wide just to tell the grandkids that they gazed on Doll's arse in its prime! Dolly may have been hurt by the insensitivity of some of the things that have been said but is is unlikely to adversly affect her business.


p.s. I have not mastered the art of quoting part posts yet

And yet according to QPH her phone HAS stopped ringing .............. it seems you have also not mastered the art of reading posts either!!!

Paws

[bigpaws]

High P,

I support the concept of genuine clients to say they feel an Escort is greedy, WHEN and only WHEN they have visited her and felt that the charge was higher then the experience, but even then that opinion is only theirs, someone else may arrive at a different conclusion. But if they felt it was bad value then I support their right to do so, but P my one and only point here is that she has suffered hugely by being accused of being greedy by people who have NOT as yet visited, I plaintively ask that you and Paws surely see the injustice in that, and as Dreamon said, no the entire country is not ringing because of this, because she has totally wrongly been caught up in this by only responding to a client, and clients DO NOT want drama, surely surely surely ye can see the wrong in this, Paws has not as yet responded to this in the manner I expected, maybe he is inquiring privately I do no know, but I am shocked and truly disappointed if he cannot see my argument here as to date I have seen him highlight things based on info he has from various sources, but he HAS contributed to destroying a Woman’s business and her life by his words, either intentionally or otherwise, and if he does not try to rectify this error with the same vigor that he pursues other issues then I condemn utterly his moral fibre, code, compass and sense of fair play and ethics, totally and utterly and will have soon in his indifference to be wholly unworthy of his position of power and influence, Its pains me deeply to write this, I think highly of him, I pray he does he right and decent thing here, that is as clear as I can make it P, the issue here is does someone have the right to destroy someone (unintentionally or otherwise) based on their beliefs alone and not on hard facts and then just wash their hands off it and not either respond or try to remedy the damage done, his silence his failure to date is damming and sinister, it will simply not do to just stay stum, stick to the mantra of greed and wait for this to all disappear and leave Dolly to pick up the pieces on her own, our words have consequences, if nothing is done here to remedy this after I have explained the issue over and over again then it shows cowardice in the extreme. I know he has a conscience, all I asked is that he follows it as he did in another matter, that is all. Maybe he is doing so behind the scenes, I hope his sake if not Dolly’s that he is, my conscience is clear, if he does not act now, he will never be able to clear it as he did in other matters, this one cannot wait…I am tying to highlight my point here as much for his sake as for Dolly’s, why cannot a man of such intelligence and thought for Escort’s not see the wrong that was done here, she should be cut some slack here, be allowed to develop a rep. here and then by all means if found to be overcharging, say so, but not before she even starts, what is the difference between stopping someone before they can get established by condemning then on no information and what a Pimp does to intimidate a Woman to leave?, answer me that, the end result is exactly the same, is it not? IE less competition, and hence less possibility to drive down price, which is exactly contrary to Paws stated goal of lowering rates, less people in any business means less competition, simple as that, I actually seem to be the ONLY person here able to treat this 100% in business terms, a lot of ye want all the benefits of a business approach, but none of the downsides, that I submit is a viral case of “the Irish Mammy syndrome” IE yer to fucking used to getting yer own way all your lives, and don’t like a Woman being in charge, well guess what lads, its the 21st centurey and Woman are finally but slowly gaining parity with men. DEAL WITH or to put another way, PISS OR GET OFF THE POT.

I have now spoken to a recent client of Dolly's, one whose opinion I trust and have found to be reliable in the past (he may or may not post here on this topic soon) and he has informed me that "Dolly is good, very very good .......... almost as good as Alexi D.!!". He is also a fan of Alexi's as you can tell and is grateful to me for recommending her to him.

Now I consider this high praise indeed ........... so I asked him privately who he would choose to see again and why between Dolly and Alexi D. since HE compared both ladies ............. he said, and I quote, "Def Alexi coz she is as good as dolly if not better so why pay dolly more when i can get the same service from Alexi for less money???"

Who can possibly argue with that logic????

Now QPH I say this ............. Dolly has got verified pictures, at least one (private) genuine review that I personally trust and provides a top-class service .............. but she IS a Greedy Escort.

What more do you want from me QPH??? To completely ignore my own code of ethics to make YOU feel better about Dolly??????

I think the time has come to leave Dolly be ............. don't you QPH????

Paws

ps How has Dolly's "business and life" been destroyed exactly???? She is a touring escort!!!!!!!