abortion

[english rebecca]

Its women that get pregnant and although I agree that abortion as a form of contraception is far from being acceptable, ultimately it is the woman;s choice. No Church or political leader should have the right to decide. Fuck me, they have alreday made a mess of Ireland on far more simpler decisions. Becca

[english rebecca]

Each has a right to their own opinion.Nobody has any right to dictate to anyone in any way. Abortion prior to 10 weeks is not a fetus it is an embryo without a nervous system or developed brain. You asked when it became a life. The answer is when you as a man has unprotected sex with a woman. Fortunately a sensible woman will see a man like you and know better. I also understand its meant to be no sex b4 marriage and that being unfaithful was a contradiction of marriage vows. Do you stick by those. If you do, then you are either some Jesus nut causing trouble or a hippocrite.
Becca

[Half Man and Half Dildo]

I am anti abortion. I think the issue of suicidal women is a straw-man argument which is being vigorously promoted by the feminist lobby and their supporters in the Labour party. Their intention is to gradually liberalise the law and some Labour TD's have been caught on tape discussing their strategy.

TWO Labour TDs, who were secretly recorded by a pro-life activist purporting to be pro-choice, have revealed their party's intention to further liberalise Ireland's abortion laws once legislation for the X Case has been passed.

Dublin North Central TD Aodhan O Riordain said the X Case legislation was only "a starting point" but added that he said he would not state this publicly, while Wicklow TD Anne Ferris said that attempts to widen the legislation would commence in the next Government, should Labour remain in office.
Ms Ferris said: "We will legislate certainly for what the European Court has told us to and then we can go further than that . . . we get the first part done and then we will go on to the next bit."
She added: "People aren't going to vote Fianna Fail back into power again, so I would say then next term it will happen."
In relation to the X Case legislation, Mr O Riordain said: "It is a starting point. Once you get that . . . then you can move . . . and of course if I'm on the radio and somebody says to me, 'It's a starting point for abortion on demand', I'm gonna say, 'No, of course it isn't – it is what it is.'"
The Labour TDs' comments will cause outrage this weekend among Fine Gael TDs and senators, who are already riven by the issue.
The most commonly expressed fear in Fine Gael is that legislating for the X Case will "open the door" to abortion on demand.
The Fine Gael Parliamentary Party will be particularly incensed by Ms Ferris's recorded comment that Labour leader Eamon Gilmore had told the Taoiseach that Mr Kenny "has to whip his people into line".
Edited transcripts of the conversations, which were recorded at the TDs' constituency offices last June, are published in the Sunday Independent today.

[Sexy Fernanda]

i had a friend in collage who was abused by her uncle and he got her pregnent age 15,

her mother found out, he was found out, mother took her to doctor sayin in no way was she having this baby, they said no,
she was told it was still life and she should carry the child, and if it was painful after the birth she could consider adoption,

she went home that night and swallowed a bottle of pills as she says now, that baby felt like her uncle was in her all the time, she cudnt cope, her mother ended up taking her to london for an abortion,


why should an abused 15 year old have to gone through this, after a near decade of sexual abuse, and the state spat on her saying well sorry nothing can be done, her uncle btw was convicted tho so at least that,

its insane, the men who bring this ideal and church who go on with the hypricotrical shit form there pulpits, and then go abuse child, wud want to be raped themselves and forced to keep the child

it wud soften there coughs

I respect your point of view and I get it where you come from,but....

and the child? has no chance? is not the child fault to be conceive by rape but should the child has a chance to leave?

Allowing the abortion for rape will be only a window to allow in the future the all abortion thing....and Ireland won't allow for beeing a catholic country,if they do,will be only a matter of time for the final step...like England did...

[Cassandra]

I respect your point of view and I get it where you come from,but....

and the child? has no chance? is not the child fault to be conceive by rape but should the child has a chance to leave?

Allowing the abortion for rape will be only a window to allow in the future the all abortion thing....and Ireland won't allow for beeing a catholic country,if they do,will be only a matter of time for the final step...like England did...

That's the mothers choice. Unwanted before birth and then what? People should feel free to do , within reason, what they want but not expect the gov or society to cln up their mess.

[Sexy Fernanda]

That's the mothers choice. Unwanted before birth and then what? People should feel free to do , within reason, what they want but not expect the gov or society to cln up their mess.

I agree with you...is the mother choice but politicians only do what they do best;tell people how they should run their lives

and if society dosen't do anything to changed,will remain the way that is...being so catholic,maybe won't be in our generation

that will be approved....perhaps in 20 or 30 years time....

[alexis]

yeah there are two lives to consider here, so the mothers life is more important then the babies??? a life is a life, no one has the right to take a life away!

[UB40]

I am in favour of abortion in the early stages of a pregnancy only. I believe that should be mainly the woman's choice but the man has a right to some say in the matter. I had an experience of this with a girlfriend over 20 years ago and it was a very difficult time.

[Cassandra]

yeah there are two lives to consider here, so the mothers life is more important then the babies??? a life is a life, no one has the right to take a life away!

True but the childs life after birth must be considered. The chances of them both living well. The possible poverty and hardship..not even a child has the right to effectively end a mothers life.
They might resent that. And it might show.

Thats the catch 22 to Everyone has a right to life.

[Stephanie]

Nobody ever said rape or incest is an acceptable way to conceive a child! Pregnancies trough incest and rape can be easily catered for IN IRELAND by proper medical care!
Ireland is not behind the times on this subject! Quite far from it! Ireland is a civilised society which doesn't permit one human talking the life of another, abortion is no different.

Look at the figures and study the fucking statistics! Less than 1% of abortions carried out in the UK are the result of rape or incest!!!
This spoon fed, always right, still in nappies type of society just want an easy way out!

Unfortunately abortion is wanted as a form of contraception and that's not right.

Unfortunately, that is so true..

Sadly, there is a segment of society that views abortion as a form of birth control.

There are young women having had 6, 8, 10 abortions (in US) !! Shocking -- to me.

I think it is wrong.

Abortion should never be utilized as a form of birth control. In my humble opinion, it should be only a 'last resort'..

In these days we have so many choices for birth control : pill, condom, implants, IUDs ..

I am pro life, anti abortion, but also PRO CHOICE . The ultimate decision lies with the woman.

And the woman's life (and her physical/mental health) trumps the life of a fetus.

To think that a victim of incest or rape should be forced to carry the pregnancy is unconscionable.

Of course we all should want a world free of sex abuse? But people trying to imply the droves of women/girls going to the UK for abortions are all victims, is far from the truth!

More thorough sex education and free access to sexual health clinics might drive down the number of unwanted pregnancies.

Instead of 'stick head in the sand' morality , try open mindedness and all around education ?