Drop Your prices and we'll cum

[Quarterpoundher]

Maslow's hierarchy of needs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thats for the link Nads...

Just tried to get my head round that article in wiki,

That’s heavy stuff.

He seems to be saying that someone can only devote time to the top tier when all four other levels have been reached by someone, that doesn’t ring right as.

Example

Why would someone on the top tier have to have security of family/job etc. sorted before they could give time to the top tier of say problem solving or lack of prejudice.

The bottom tier is obviously the bedrock basic needs that have to be meet first, but as far as I can see, any of the other items in each subsequent tier could be mixed and moved into any tier except the bottom one.

It’s given me a headache….I think I’ll just stick to the food pyramid…

[Quarterpoundher]

That's all well and good QPH, of course they should get what they get if men are willing to pay it ................... however they are now complaining that business is slow so they are not getting it anymore.
Only the Best Escorts will survive ............. the others, unless they cut prices as an incentive, won't last.
It's a win-win situation for the punters .............. it has now become an escort problem instead of a punter problem.
Yes us punters have some spare money ............. but which of the many escorts shall we give it to??? We haven't got enough for all the escorts anymore I'm afraid.

Paws

I dealt with the issue of Escorts complaining about slow business and punters view of them lowering prices, but I feel that is not an option in this realm as it is in others as say an Escort drops 50%, to make up the shortfall she then has to see twice the people to stay on the same money for twice the time, she therefore exposes herself to twice the risks I mention in previous post, if she meet 5 in boom times she has to meet 10 in bad times that’s 5 extra chances to fall victim to a possible scumbag, that’s 5 more maybe less then switched on people skulking around hotels or apartment complex's with a sign on there back saying "I'm a Punter" drawing attention to them, that’s not acceptable to me if I were an Escort, just to accommodate the financial concerns of others.

If I did twice the hours in the Forestry to make the same money, I’d be dead in a week as I would get tired, not be as alert to danger, take shortcuts and end up sinking the chain into my chest at full rev, it happened to one fella I knew, he made it 100 meters and was found dead holding his insides in his hands.

Escorts would also let there guard down if under similar time pressures, its just not worth the risk just to accommodate other peoples fiscal concerns, that’s my view, I know yours differs and I respect that, and do see your points.

If you say they are not getting it anymore and do not wish to lower, then there out of business, thanks for the memories, bid you good day and good luck. If they want to stay then they have to restructure in some way, again market forces at work.

You could say be happy to make less money, but no one has the right to dictate what someone else wishes to earn in a given timeframe.

It can’t be entirely an Escort problem, if they become much fewer in number would that not lead to a shortage that would be filled by traffickers possibly, and the difficulties and terrors that entails.

I feel that if only the good Escorts are left that could only be a good thing, the end of bad reviews, end of false pics/profiles, only thing is Paws if they were only good Escorts and no downsides, they’d be no need for your good/bad threads and dare I say no need for you, that would be one downside, but think of all the spare ‘leisure” time you’d have on your hands (or Paws)

So I suppose your caught in a hobson's choice, Boom time creates a glut of problems in this area and increased workload for you, and recession means downtime for you but as you say no mon, no fun, its just not fair paws, the world is geared against you, but hey, I know you gave me the thumbs down in your review of me, But ole studbud don’t bear grudges, and if the pool of talent dried up, there’s always a tree here for you to swing from here, but as I would be one of the good Escorts to survive the cull, you’d better bring a bulgin’ wallet with ya, and review my rewiew in a more positive light....

PS

At the end of the day the customer is always right, anywhere, with the proviso in this arena that some of the customers are also dodgey and some are dangerous, for those reasons I’m on the side of honest genuine Escorts, but I do also take note of expense issues for Clients but as I say they are not a necessity, I like to drive, when diesel goes up I drive less but enjoy more, the same logic applies here as most everywhere, everything in moderation.


VBR...QPH...

[Smarty]

Basically we are being taken for a "ride" in Ireland.
The girls have heard they can come over charge us over the top.
Well that was then and this is now.

There is no excuse for the €150 rate when Spain the average european charge is €50-60.

I'm tired of hearing also that a punter that pays less is more of a disease risk than a punter that pays more pure bullshit

[mehornym]

just quickly to the maslow.

Its one way of looking at life. I agree to some extend to it, that you need certain things filled before you can persue your next goal. Each individual is different, and their needs will adjust. We will be able to go to step 4 or 5, even if step 3 is not all completed.

[bigpaws]

Quarterpoundher
"........... that’s not acceptable to me if I were an Escort, just to accommodate the financial concerns of others."

You're missing the point here QPH ................ the financial concerns are not those of the punters but rather those of the escorts themselves!!

I don't agree that seeing more punters increases a risk to any escort ............ if some twisted individual has decided that he is going to rob, rape or beat a particular escort then her prices won't come into the equation one way or the other.
"I'd better not try to physically assault that escort because her prices are too high ................ " ............ likewise if the law targets a particular escort then her prices/customer base won't help or hinder her predicament either.

As for me being out of business ................ I really would welcome that day with open arms!!!
My goal on here is to completely rid this business of ALL the Bad Escorts so I can enjoy my retirement in the company of Good Escorts .............. and I really really mean that!!!

Paws

[Quarterpoundher]

Quarterpoundher
"........... that’s not acceptable to me if I were an Escort, just to accommodate the financial concerns of others."

You're missing the point here QPH ................ the financial concerns are not those of the punters but rather those of the escorts themselves!!

I don't agree that seeing more punters increases a risk to any escort ............ if some twisted individual has decided that he is going to rob, rape or beat a particular escort then her prices won't come into the equation one way or the other.
"I'd better not try to physically assault that escort because her prices are too high ................ " ............ likewise if the law targets a particular escort then her prices/customer base won't help or hinder her predicament either.

As for me being out of business ................ I really would welcome that day with open arms!!!
My goal on here is to completely rid this business of ALL the Bad Escorts so I can enjoy my retirement in the company of Good Escorts .............. and I really really mean that!!!

Paws

Any day now Paws, you’ll be sunning yourself on the veranda of the E-1 lifetime service retirement home, paid for by all your P.A.Y.E contributions (Punt As You Earn) being lavished on by some of the stunning Women here in their Nurses uniforms, and no less then you’d deserve.

I just want to ask in what you say about…

“The financial concerns are not those of the punters but rather those of the escorts themselves”

I’m puzzled, if that is the case, why is it that it’s only Punters who raise the issue of rates ?

I would like to clarify something that I feel you’ve misinterpreted. And if others have as well, I’m sorry, you made the statement,

“I'd better not try to physically assault that escort because her prices are too high”

I was not saying that a potential whacko would target someone based on price, I don’t think my wording inferred that, it certainly was not in my head on writing, but I do believe that if and Escort has to meet twice the people, then she has a chance (a “chance” Paws, not a “certainty”) of encountering a problem.

This is a logical assumption to make, take the analogy of a man, closing his eyes and running full pelt across the Naas dual carrigeway, there’s a “chance” but not a “certainty” that he’ll get to the other side, but if he turns around and does it a second time his odds of not being injured diminish but he may again escape, but if he keeps doing it over and over again, he’ll eventually become a hood ornament on a HGV Scania. That is indisputable, as is the increased odds of encountering a problem punter or the hotel or apartment residents becoming aware of things, that stands to reason I feel, I never said they would be targeted by virtue of rates.

Now any reference I make to Escorts from here down is referring to Genuine Honest Escorts and Likewise Punters.

Now I concede fully that issues of rates are completely valid for regular Punters, but I feel that there is already a limiting law on rates in effect already as I do defend the right of an Escort (Genuine) to maximize profits, they are not a not for profit organization, and as most here treat this arena as a business, then it is indefensible to have issue with them doing what any business person would do. Having said that any Escort who gradually increases her rate, will eventually arrive at a point where works dries up, and so will logically lower or go belly up. So by definition an equilibrium is arrived at. The rate at the moment seems to be in the region of E300 per hour, even I know it is thus because that is what men in the main are paying, they may be far from happy about it, but there are paying it none the less, so again by definition E300 is the “current” market value of one hours time of someone’s companionship, its as simple as that.

I would equate this whole arena to that of an Engine,

The Genuine Escort is the High-octane fuel
The Genuine Punter is the Piston
Thrust is the timing belt
Honesty the carburetor
And discretion the spark plug that ensures a clean burn for all.

All need to be in harmony to keep the engine ticking over,

A bad Escort or Punter is water in the fuel, causing it to splutter ocassionly but not cut out
Pimps are dirt in the fuel lines

It is the smart Escort and Punter that understands that this is a symbiotic relationship, goodwill and fair play by both sides is essential to everything,

Breeches of that goodwill are known to all here, so no need to list them.

The issue of rates here is pretty much 50/50 but sides have a valid case, what makes me come down on the side of the Escorts on this is solely my knowledge of the huge importance of Woman being the Authors of there own Novels and having the final say in how each chapter evolves and concludes, I know how devastating the loss of such control can be. It is why I side with them on this, money is inconsequential in comparison to this concept, but to punters who have not witnessed this please believe me that I do see where your coming from on this, and I would agree that for the good of things as a whole it is better that rates don’t rise to a level that prices out ordinary decent fellas out of the game, but I would say that if it is to be treated as the business I see it referred to all the time, then you absolutely have to accept the rules of economics as they play out in any and all other walks of life, you cannot have it both ways.

Anyway I can’t add anymore to this, I’ve said what I wanted to say and hope I clarified any misunderstanding. When all’s said and done, it won’t affect me, but I do see how it affects many, and again the only real solution is to meet halfway if possible, if not then I guess Punters will have to just measure there cloth to their means. Maybe that’s concept alien to those who know only Celtic tiger Ireland as adults, you are in all likelihood gonna get a crash course in it soon, and it might not be all such a bad thing…

VBR...QPH...

[bigpaws]

At the moment QPH the prices are brought up by the punters because we feel the "pinch" (also punters simply post more here, escorts on here have also mentioned a slow down in business) first but what I'm saying is in the long run the escorts are going to feel it more so maybe they should start to plan ahead??
Lower prices now, build up a good reputation and strong customer base etc for the future ................. and that future may be a bleak one for some escorts!!

Afterall as you, and others, have said escorting is not an essential in life .......... it is a luxury ............... but it's only a luxury for punters!! Escorts NEED escorting in order to pay the bills, eat and just live. For them it is an essential and I am actually trying to give them some good advise because I don't want to see fantastic looking escorts suffer financially and have to leave Ireland.

By the way the current market price is actually 150 euros for a half hour appointment and 250 euros for an hour ............... any more than that is pure greed on the escorts part and any less than that is pure financial genius on the escorts part.

I'm still not convinced about your concerns on safety QPH ................

Paws

[roryman]

Hey QP, for a man who hasnt had a punt yet, you certainly have a lot to say on the subject!
Why do prices concern you if you dont punt??????

And jessssus you can write. If you turned that powerful intellect of yours to writing a novel for example, you could afford all the escorts you could eat!

[ringside]

I can't believe the response i got to this thread. i've been using this website for a while but only just registered. Punting in Dublin is over priced compared with most European city's and the US by about 50 to 100 % And now as somebody pointed out there are girls looking for 200 for 30 mins. Unless a girl is a super model with great and great service its just not worh it. And why do most of the girls default standard charge this 150 per half although they range in looks and services enourmously. This is a market you get what you can. Try sell your house at last years fucking price.. Also a massive pain in the arse is finding out who's available at the time you want. this website could be so much better. iF girls were online we could have auctions specials etc. I noticed that since I put my post that there were more than normal specials for 100 euro per half, a decent price if you ask me for a well reviewed girl. And still above what they would get in other cities. Why the fuck do we have to pay more for EVERYTHING in this country???????????

[Quarterpoundher]

At the moment QPH the prices are brought up by the punters because we feel the "pinch" (also punters simply post more here, escorts on here have also mentioned a slow down in business) first but what I'm saying is in the long run the escorts are going to feel it more so maybe they should start to plan ahead??
Lower prices now, build up a good reputation and strong customer base etc for the future ................. and that future may be a bleak one for some escorts!!

Afterall as you, and others, have said escorting is not an essential in life .......... it is a luxury ............... but it's only a luxury for punters!! Escorts NEED escorting in order to pay the bills, eat and just live. For them it is an essential and I am actually trying to give them some good advise because I don't want to see fantastic looking escorts suffer financially and have to leave Ireland.

By the way the current market price is actually 150 euros for a half hour appointment and 250 euros for an hour ............... any more than that is pure greed on the escorts part and any less than that is pure financial genius on the escorts part.

I'm still not convinced about your concerns on safety QPH ................

Paws

You make some good points there Paws and I agree with them in scope if not in detail, what you say about planning ahead got me thinking and your right, looking at it from a business angle only, then any successful business person tries to look ahead as the impending economic climate and adjusts accordingly and if they can’t or won’t then economic forces will make the decision for them.

(I know I got the hour rate wrong, I was just using the 300 figure as reference ball park figure.)

Also, I’ve been saying all along that an Escort experience is a luxury, so by definition it is not a necessity and can be done without, but also if it is a luxury then again by definition it is going to be more expensive, but I qualify that by saying, given the nature of this enterprise in its entirety, (IE the legal limbo, the vulnerability of Escorts to Pimps/Inherent dangers in the job/lack of recourse to the norms afforded other sectors etc.) it cannot be treated totally in conventional business terms, but only something approaching that, and I do feel that there may be an argument for the rates not to exceed a certain ratio in order to protect things for all, but primarily for Escorts.

I agree totally that it is far better for things as a whole to make good regular money in as safe a possible an environment, and that environment can only exist when there is a large pool of clientele, which in the main I’d imagine is made up of fellas during normal jobs.

I used to go weeks without making a bob while at the same time risking my live for the privilege when the fishing was bad and at other times the reverse was the case, so I know well that it is far better to make a consistent amount safely and regularly then it is to make a mint dangerously once in a while.

So it is detrimental to things if rates get out of hand, but I would defend an Escorts fundemental right to push the envelope if they wish, they may get that rate and if they do then more luck to them, if not then they’ll have to lower or leave, simple as, but they would be damaging things for all.

All in all Paws I agree with the core argument, just with a few provisos thrown in…

Get up the good work…QPH…