Drop Your prices and we'll cum

[Quarterpoundher]

so i take it QPH your not going to lose your virginity as far as with Escorts go in the immediate future, some girls seem to like u here, u could even get a big discount u could have a time to remember

High EP, how are things, I’ll take that in the humor that it was meant, and thanks for your ability to remain mannerly in a discussion instead of veering of into insult as sometimes happens here, I value that trait enormously in people.

I will never be able to reconcile sex with renumeration, that’s just me, not judging anyone here, I’ve made that pretty clear and the best prove of that is the fact that I engage here at all as my reasons are tempered steel at this stage.

But if I was I would or could never ever haggle over something as intimate as that, and I said earlier that “if” I were to I can assure you it would be a once off, balls to the wall, no expense spared thing.

“if” some like me, the liking is mutual, the little they give of themselves in forum (and it can only ever be a little, Escort or Punter) are a few drops of their personality’s, but I find those drops wash away the cobwebs that hang from the Portraits on this hallowed wall far more then a waterfall of reviews, and I like what I see.

I like them for them and not what I can get from them or haggle from them. I have had far too much manners instilled into me to even consider, nare mind attempt such a thing.


Best Regards...QPH...

[experienced punter]

I would see more girls too if they dropped their prices but it is simply not happening except for just a couple, I couldn't get a 1hr callout last week for less than 300 the 3 no's i rang wanted 350 330 & 300 almost all escorts are standing firm in their charges, i won't pay this 300 again its just too much, i'm taking a long break from the game unless i get a reasonable price from an escort i like....

[TheNads]

I got my nose out of joint there. I should have offered him a hug rather than a rant.

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[mailman]

Well, there is a Spanish quarter here.

Maybe they'd act like they do in Spain

I doubt it somehow, and thats the point. Even if it were poor in Spain you wouldn't mind taking a hit because its a fair price. Here its not so i dont get hit, i dont visit until its with a quality girl. I've also given up going to girls with review that we can trust, i wont that the chance any more.

[mehornym]

I believe that comparing escorts to different countries can be tricky.
Like comparing Ukraine to Ireland. I do not think it is quite fair.
The value of a Euro, Pound or Dollar is different.
Use countries that seems fair to compare with.
UK, Germany, Denmark.
They say Denmark is quite an expensive country to live. I've been there and also visited escorts there.
The compared price is around 200 euro pr hour. Germany is around 100-200 unless you find a brothel where you get the whole day for around 200.

If you use that kind of comparison, then yeah. Prices seem extremely high over here.

I know that the argument for fair prices in Ireland is that it's not just a product they are selling. I understand both the for and against argument.
Thats what i love about the human brain. We are always able to adjust. I am 100% convinced that i'm buying a product when i go there. I'm paying for an hour and get an hour. And in that sence, yeah. The prices are way to high.
The other argument is that its a more valuable than just a product and just asking for a price is unrealistic.

But it has come down to a matter of demand and supply and "being a product."
Face it.
I'm all for the prices going down. I have decided to keep to 1-2 girls because i know what i get and for what price. I used to be visiting loads of them, but no more.
If the prices went down, a boom in clientel would take place ( I honestly believe that) and i do believe that it would increase profit for the individual escort.

[anitasizzle]

I believe that comparing escorts to different countries can be tricky.
Like comparing Ukraine to Ireland. I do not think it is quite fair.
The value of a Euro, Pound or Dollar is different.
Use countries that seems fair to compare with.
UK, Germany, Denmark.
They say Denmark is quite an expensive country to live. I've been there and also visited escorts there.
The compared price is around 200 euro pr hour. Germany is around 100-200 unless you find a brothel where you get the whole day for around 200.

If you use that kind of comparison, then yeah. Prices seem extremely high over here.

I know that the argument for fair prices in Ireland is that it's not just a product they are selling. I understand both the for and against argument.
Thats what i love about the human brain. We are always able to adjust. I am 100% convinced that i'm buying a product when i go there. I'm paying for an hour and get an hour. And in that sence, yeah. The prices are way to high.
The other argument is that its a more valuable than just a product and just asking for a price is unrealistic.

But it has come down to a matter of demand and supply and "being a product."
Face it.
I'm all for the prices going down. I have decided to keep to 1-2 girls because i know what i get and for what price. I used to be visiting loads of them, but no more.
If the prices went down, a boom in clientel would take place ( I honestly believe that) and i do believe that it would increase profit for the individual escort.

If I remember correctly, back in 1997, the price of a Punt in a Massage parlour was £60 all in for 30 mins. and the price for visiting an Escort was £100 for 30 mins. Now we all know the cost of living in Dublin has risen, but the price of punting really HASN'T

[mailman]

If I remember correctly, back in 1997, the price of a Punt in a Massage parlour was £60 all in for 30 mins. and the price for visiting an Escort was £100 for 30 mins. Now we all know the cost of living in Dublin has risen, but the price of punting really HASN'T

Ah, aren't those prices in line with inflation?

"Irish Punters: Being ripped off since before 1997"

[bigpaws]

I have to disagree with you QPH ............. yes you are right in saying that escorting is a luxury so it can be done without .......... but it is for the very fact that it is a luxury that it will be hit first and hit hard when money is tight!!

And you are wrong to believe that the "ball is in the escorts court" and "they can wait us out" ............... of course us punters will continue to see escorts but we will be very very selective about which escorts we see because we will want to be 100% sure that we are getting full value for money.

The word "punt" generally means to "take a chance" but those days, as regards seeing unproven escorts, are coming to a swift end meaning that a lot of escorts will suffer and eventually financially die out leaving a very select few group of fair(!) Good Escorts making all the money.

However it's not all doom and gloom for the losing escorts, there is a solution to their problem ................ lower your prices, provide a good service, develop a solid reputation, build up genuine reviews and you too will join the ranks of the Escort Elite leaving your financial worries behind!! Simple and logical but it works ..............

Paws

[Quarterpoundher]

I have to disagree with you QPH ............. yes you are right in saying that escorting is a luxury so it can be done without .......... but it is for the very fact that it is a luxury that it will be hit first and hit hard when money is tight!!

And you are wrong to believe that the "ball is in the escorts court" and "they can wait us out" ............... of course us punters will continue to see escorts but we will be very very selective about which escorts we see because we will want to be 100% sure that we are getting full value for money.

The word "punt" generally means to "take a chance" but those days, as regards seeing unproven escorts, are coming to a swift end meaning that a lot of escorts will suffer and eventually financially die out leaving a very select few group of fair(!) Good Escorts making all the money.

However it's not all doom and gloom for the losing escorts, there is a solution to their problem ................ lower your prices, provide a good service, develop a solid reputation, build up genuine reviews and you too will join the ranks of the Escort Elite leaving your financial worries behind!! Simple and logical but it works ..............

Paws

High Paws,

That’s a good point about the term Punt, I had not thought of it's actual meaning, and your spot on in that the absolutely last thing you should do is take any Punt/chance here, for a whole host of reasons

To your first point

That’s why I used the analogy of Milk/Wine – Bread/truffles
The latter in each representing an Escort experience.

Show me a punter that would go hungry in order to Punt, and I’ll show you a fella with a problem.

But lack of spondulocks will affect the Punter more then the Escort as they will either move on or change tack careerwise and yes the price will lower, but so will the quality of the experience, if you refer to an Escort experience as being totally different to something else, (Surly that is the differentiating factor between the two, and the reason for the difference in price range) can’t have it both ways Paws, the cheapness of the street and the quality of an Escort and all the effort they go to too make it an experience and not a cold, emotionless and ultimately cheapening to both machination, I’m referring to TRUE Escorts and not those masquerading as such.

That’s why I agree that it would suffer, I never said it would not be immune to the wider economic situation. I mean that the smart and savvy Escort with options would get the hell outa dodge when they see the tumbleweed rolling down mainstreet, those options being another career or another country, the wheel is always turning, perhaps the next big thing in escorting is India/China or the rapidly improving situation in Eastern Europe.


Say the average encounter was E300 an hour and because of economics’ Punters wanted it cut to 150, would you in your job take a pay cut of 50% and that’s ignoring the huge dangers they face, Physical/Mental/legal, no recourse to employment right’s/entitlement rights/unions/pensions, nothing, all dangers that we would not face in our jobs and all the rights afforded us by employment law, now I know you can counter that with the fact that they are tax free, more luck to them, (I’m almost outside the tax take as well, we all would if we could, admit it). But that’s a small benefit when weighed up against the issues just described. And again no doubt someone will trot out the old reliable of who asked them to do it ? Well the fact is they are, and ye would be gutted if they were not, so cut em some slack on this,

Would any of you wake up in the morning and go to a job where there was a high chance of being Raped/attacked/infected/robbed/arrested/or deported. Would you then be lectured to take a pay cut for no other reason then that someone else is feeling the pinch, if it was me, I’d say f**k that for a game of soldiers, sling your hook son, the next one through the door will be a man. These are the realties they face at the same time as they open the door and smile, Please allow them the small compensation of being well paid for such a risk.

When you boil it down to brass tacks, what they are charging is what Men are paying, simple as that, and they would be mad not to take what someone is prepared to pay. No one and I mean NO-ONE is marching Men at gunpoint and forcing them to ring those numbers and knock on those door,…….NO-ONE but the MEN themselves, so why should Escorts collectively lower their rates if Men cannot collectively stow there powder in protest, so in the final analysis the ball IS in the Escorts court until that unlikely day arrives.

Ponder on your own (Collective) impulses to Punt, before Pouncing on Escorts Impulses to Profit, both are Natural, both are Human….

Both will exist as long as we exist, accept, enjoy and move on…

I’m ambling back to my stool Paws, no need for a cut man, fair fight as allways.

VBR…QPH…

[bigpaws]

High Paws,

That’s a good point about the term Punt, I had not thought of it's actual meaning, and your spot on in that the absolutely last thing you should do is take any Punt/chance here, for a whole host of reasons

To your first point

That’s why I used the analogy of Milk/Wine – Bread/truffles
The latter in each representing an Escort experience.

Show me a punter that would go hungry in order to Punt, and I’ll show you a fella with a problem.

But lack of spondulocks will affect the Punter more then the Escort as they will either move on or change tack careerwise and yes the price will lower, but so will the quality of the experience, if you refer to an Escort experience as being totally different to something else, (Surly that is the differentiating factor between the two, and the reason for the difference in price range) can’t have it both ways Paws, the cheapness of the street and the quality of an Escort and all the effort they go to too make it an experience and not a cold, emotionless and ultimately cheapening to both machination, I’m referring to TRUE Escorts and not those masquerading as such.

That’s why I agree that it would suffer, I never said it would not be immune to the wider economic situation. I mean that the smart and savvy Escort with options would get the hell outa dodge when they see the tumbleweed rolling down mainstreet, those options being another career or another country, the wheel is always turning, perhaps the next big thing in escorting is India/China or the rapidly improving situation in Eastern Europe.


Say the average encounter was E300 an hour and because of economics’ Punters wanted it cut to 150, would you in your job take a pay cut of 50% and that’s ignoring the huge dangers they face, Physical/Mental/legal, no recourse to employment right’s/entitlement rights/unions/pensions, nothing, all dangers that we would not face in our jobs and all the rights afforded us by employment law, now I know you can counter that with the fact that they are tax free, more luck to them, (I’m almost outside the tax take as well, we all would if we could, admit it). But that’s a small benefit when weighed up against the issues just described. And again no doubt someone will trot out the old reliable of who asked them to do it ? Well the fact is they are, and ye would be gutted if they were not, so cut em some slack on this,

Would any of you wake up in the morning and go to a job where there was a high chance of being Raped/attacked/infected/robbed/arrested/or deported. Would you then be lectured to take a pay cut for no other reason then that someone else is feeling the pinch, if it was me, I’d say f**k that for a game of soldiers, sling your hook son, the next one through the door will be a man. These are the realties they face at the same time as they open the door and smile, Please allow them the small compensation of being well paid for such a risk.

When you boil it down to brass tacks, what they are charging is what Men are paying, simple as that, and they would be mad not to take what someone is prepared to pay. No one and I mean NO-ONE is marching Men at gunpoint and forcing them to ring those numbers and knock on those door,…….NO-ONE but the MEN themselves, so why should Escorts collectively lower their rates if Men cannot collectively stow there powder in protest, so in the final analysis the ball IS in the Escorts court until that unlikely day arrives.

Ponder on your own (Collective) impulses to Punt, before Pouncing on Escorts Impulses to Profit, both are Natural, both are Human….

Both will exist as long as we exist, accept, enjoy and move on…

I’m ambling back to my stool Paws, no need for a cut man, fair fight as allways.

VBR…QPH…

That's all well and good QPH, of course they should get what they get if men are willing to pay it ................... however they are now complaining that business is slow so they are not getting it anymore.
Only the Best Escorts will survive ............. the others, unless they cut prices as an incentive, won't last.
It's a win-win situation for the punters .............. it has now become an escort problem instead of a punter problem.
Yes us punters have some spare money ............. but which of the many escorts shall we give it to??? We haven't got enough for all the escorts anymore I'm afraid.

Paws