Is Dublin the only European capital without a red-light district ?

[EnglishAlex]

150 years ago Dublin had the biggest red-light district in Europe, in the area called Monto (now Talbot Street).

There were over 1600 prostitutes (5 times more than now).

London has Soho, Paris has Pigalle, Amsterdam basically is a giant red-light district. Even in Rome you can still see ladies of the night plying their trade on the streets.

What's wrong with a red light district?

Why is it IFSC considered a red light district? Do we go in knickers on the street in front of the Bank of Ireland?

I think if prostitution would be legal everywhere in the world, there would be no more trafficking, no more PIMPs and no more Swedish Laws.

I'm upset.... SEX workers will never disappear as long as sex is the most important activity in everyone's life.

They just make it worst by trying to stop it.


I know i usually don't open this kind of topics, but today i just imagined Dublin with a red light district just like Amsterdam. And i think that would bring a lot of income to the capital of Ireland.

There would be a sex tourism, who has been to Amsterdam and never thought of visiting the red light district??? No one !!!

I don't agree that legalisation would stop trafficking, I think that's an extremely naive viewpoint tbh. A lovely idea Luna but realistically there would always be the bad guys who want to make money from others.

In UK and Ireland, prostitution is already legal and trafficking exists in both countries, not always illegal immigrants being trafficked either. I think there'll always be people who want to make money from Sex Work/Sex Workers without doing the job themselves. Never forget that a person who is selling sex is worth more than importing drugs.

The problems with a red light districts are the elements of control, the organised criminal gangs. In Amsterdam it's a problem, many Escorts are trafficked from other European countries and forced to work for someone rather than be allowed to get on with their business themselves. I know a lady from Czech (where prostitution is legal but organising it is not) who was forced to participate in a snuff movie, she had to play russian roulette. She was extremely lucky to get away with her life. Her friend was killed right in front of her. In both of these countries: Czech and Holland, prostitution is legal. Bang goes the 'make it legal and we'll all live happily ever after' theory.

IFSC is probably considered a red light area due to the number of Escorts working there. Financial districts can be lucrative and setting up shop in one is appealing to not only Escorts but people who control Escorts too.

Trafficking and Prostitution are 2 separate issues, trafficking is not and should not be allowed. Sex Work imo should. We're not doing anything wrong but some people take issue with the moral aspects of the Industry.

America is the source of the anti-prostitution hysteria I believe. So many countries are scared to upset the yanks and prefer to go ahead with their agenda and make our Industry Illegal than be given the cold shoulder by the country.

I agree that the situation is made worse by trying to stop prostitution, the industry is driven underground directly into the hands of the criminals who have no right to be controlling any person. But such is life. Sad but true.

[skyliner]

I would say that Edinburgh doesnt have one either. There are a load of dodgy "saunas" alonf Rose street though.

[Luna Nueva]

I think that Amsterdam has given the sex industry a bad name in terms of how outsiders view it and I wouldn't really want something like that in Dublin or any other part of Ireland. I've had several opportunities to visit the place with my friends over the years and I never went along.

I think it brought a lot of tourism too. Girls are aloud to work legally. Why not? Sex industry has been always popular. A red light district with windows ... would work very well here. It would bring income to many other business too.

I agree with you Luna on your post,whitout been rude,wheyIreland is better than Europe to not have sex worker's?

Just because it's a catholic country? for been that way,the avarage of men looking for escorts is even higher,why Ireland

cant have sex worker's,what made the place better than Europe?taking away the free will of adults to do what they want with their private lives,what gonna be next?tell the civil how they should spend their money,how,where and with who?

Is not that a country is better than another one. But sex is like having a meal, you need it. So as we have coffee shops around towns, why red districts or brothels wouldn't be aloud? just because religion said sex is a sin? That is just the way people see things... open... or not... mentality has an important role here.

[Luna Nueva]

I don't agree that legalisation would stop trafficking, I think that's an extremely naive viewpoint tbh. A lovely idea Luna but realistically there would always be the bad guys who want to make money from others.

In UK and Ireland, prostitution is already legal and trafficking exists in both countries, not always illegal immigrants being trafficked either. I think there'll always be people who want to make money from Sex Work/Sex Workers without doing the job themselves. Never forget that a person who is selling sex is worth more than importing drugs.

The problems with a red light districts are the elements of control, the organised criminal gangs. In Amsterdam it's a problem, many Escorts are trafficked from other European countries and forced to work for someone rather than be allowed to get on with their business themselves. I know a lady from Czech (where prostitution is legal but organising it is not) who was forced to participate in a snuff movie, she had to play russian roulette. She was extremely lucky to get away with her life. Her friend was killed right in front of her. In both of these countries: Czech and Holland, prostitution is legal. Bang goes the 'make it legal and we'll all live happily ever after' theory.

IFSC is probably considered a red light area due to the number of Escorts working there. Financial districts can be lucrative and setting up shop in one is appealing to not only Escorts but people who control Escorts too.

Trafficking and Prostitution are 2 separate issues, trafficking is not and should not be allowed. Sex Work imo should. We're not doing anything wrong but some people take issue with the moral aspects of the Industry.

America is the source of the anti-prostitution hysteria I believe. So many countries are scared to upset the yanks and prefer to go ahead with their agenda and make our Industry Illegal than be given the cold shoulder by the country.

I agree that the situation is made worse by trying to stop prostitution, the industry is driven underground directly into the hands of the criminals who have no right to be controlling any person. But such is life. Sad but true.

If prostitution would be totally legal like Amsterdam, girls would be even more protected, they would want more and more to be independent work for them self with no fear. And i am sure they would have the gods to report the police or clients if tehy would be trafficked with no fear that they would be killed, or sent back to their countries, because i suppose that's another reason many accept that.

You are right regarding criminal gangs, but here in Ireland gardai are quite prompt and used to gangs and similar situation, they could control it. But it is easier to control when is accepted by the society.

About the Czech girl, i am so sorry to hear this kind of stories, i can't imagine myself in this kind of situation. I am afraid to think of it... working in this business, if you are not able to take care of yourself, you need some security, like a emergency button, emergency phone call. Some girls are innocent, but some of them just like to get involved with criminal gangs... So i guess it depends on each person, but none of this situation should finish with a murderer. It is sad... But then it can happen if you are a lawyer, or a bank manager, or a drug dealer... in any of this kind of jobs that involves big amounts of money you can have some enemies .. and get killed... let's just hope there are no criminals watching us keep finger crossed and not get involved with weird people .

Any situation can be controlled, if the ones up there want to control it