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    I pointed out in an earlier post that lack of sexual intimacy can be a key factor in triggering depression (please refer to my post in relation to negative effects and implications which would accompany the introduction of the "Swedish model" in the thread "Advertising Campaign or Creating a Bad Image" for more information in this regard).

    In addition, the obvious flaws in the "Swedish model" (pushing the Sex Industry into the hands of pimps and/or human traffickers) are apparent in Sweden itself.

    Interesting Fact:

    More people are diagnosed with clinical depression per annum in Sweden than in any country in Europe. As depression among the general population of Sweden is ongoing, not all (or even a considerable percentage) of these diagnoses of depression can be attributed to Seasonal Affective Disorder (A study of sufferers of depression in Nordic states [including Sweden] attributed SAD a considerably low factor in triggering of depression amongst those surveyed).

    Any jurisdiction considering introducing the "Swedish model" within their society should carefully consider the implications and ramifications (for all involved) which this legislation would impose upon their society.


    (Links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasona...ctive_disorder,
    http://www.thelocal.se/discuss/index...1#.UNwheuSWato,
    http://www.thelocal.se/6176/20070123/#.UNwjZOSWato,
    http://www.thelocal.se/discuss/index...2#.UNwl2OSWato,
    http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/151832)

    The above links make for some interesting reading. And the above links are in relation to just some of the articles I found in relation to the prevalence of depression in Sweden.

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    the Swedish model has not been a success in Sweden. Norway rejected it.
    the thought of England and France adapting such a failed model is laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmcome View Post
    the Swedish model has not been a success in Sweden. Norway rejected it.
    the thought of England and France adapting such a failed model is laughable.
    Denmark rejected it. Norway still has it fully in place, and hence why some now call it the "Nordic model" rather than the "Swedish model" since everyone advocates that the Scandinavians know how to do health care and prison systems better than Ireland or the UK I'd imagine that's deliberate ploy to convince people and politicians that it is the "right model".

    The first report into it's implementation (translated to English by Norwegian sex work activist Thomas Larson/@Samoth12) clearly showed an increase in violence against sex workers.

    It also still raises considerable issues in Ireland, which are unfortunately unlikely to ever be explored because of the nature of prostitution, such as the constitutionality of criminalising one party to a transaction, etc. One only has to look at the unfair convictions of men in Sweden who were in effect propositioned by the female who literally touted/talked them into the transaction and then decided to pull out, leading to hotel staff to call the police and the man to be caught and convicted of ATTEMPTING to purchase sex.

    Following that it goes without saying that inevitably when the law cannot be trusted, people will create their own guarantees....relying on violence, on non-independent escorts who can be controlled to guarantee service and perhaps immune from police attention, the growth of organised crime and dissident republicans, etc.

    Most of those advocating don't care about the consequences, only the funding or ideological message.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banjaxed View Post

    Most of those advocating don't care about the consequences, only the funding or ideological message.

    And that in esssence is the problem Banjaxed. The unholy alliance of radical feminists and religious bigots have decided that prostitution is an evil that they must rid this country of! They have no acceptance that there is a wide spectrum of experiences and circumstances of women working in the sex industry.

    They well know the consequences of the Swedish model and intend fully to make it harder and more unsafe for sex workers - in the hope they they will all give up and run into the open arms of the "rescue industry".
    "Don't be reckless with other people’s hearts. Don't put up with people who are reckless with yours"

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    The horrible truth is that, if it succeeds in destroying the demands for sexual services (why are we even TALKING about destroying ANY demand in a recession?) the "Nordic Model" will finally give them JUST what they always wanted, women *FORCED* to "exit" sex work by the absence of demand and offered only alternatives under their control...

    Then they will finally be just like all the animal welfare orgs...with the power of life and death to manipulate for funding, influence and warn fuzzy power kicks...

    The are no words for the extent to which these sick, creepy, people disgust me. The more so because I HAVE seen how they work at close range...

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