Voting begins in Dixville Notch!

[Dub Lad]

Watch as he antagonises China and they default the trillions you owe them, his foreign polices are potentially disastrous. And regarding Obama care, are you comparing people that can't afford health insurance to your everyday working class person who can't afford it through lack of employment, not everyone is a sponger, health care should be universal, it's peoples lives your talking about?

First 4 years of Obama another 5 trillion added to the deficit already
As for Obamacare we HAVE medicare Romney will not touch that he will make smart choices NOT a slash and burn apparoach as the democracts would love you to believe.

Universal Healthcare is a bad thing in my opinion, ok look at the irish healthcare system as it is, can you imagine if all healthcare was universal? the taxes you'd have to raise to fund it would be astronomical, you would hardly ever get to see a doctor etc,

Ill reiterate we have medicare....

[Dub Lad]

Look at universal education, you have schools in complete tatters, you have pre-fab sheds etc the people who can afford to pay for education SHOULD pay for education, universal education is a regressive policy.

[RicFlair]

Gettin' tighter!!!

Obama 78

Romney 82

[RicFlair]

WOW! Its over halfway on the Electoral College count.

Obama 123

Romney 153


Very interesting!

[RicFlair]

Dub-lad, I think Romney (in own humble opinion) is not the guy to lead America. He's far too much of a reactionist leader. Plus he changes his mind on social decisions (gay marriage, abortion) in-order to get the conversative vote to become the President. I think he wants the job just to satisfy his own personal need of achievement. His motivations are wrong in my opinion and I just don't think he can be trusted. Also when it comes to international politics, would he know what to do? I think when it comes to the wider world he'd land his foot in shit right from the start.

[Dub Lad]

Dub-lad, I think Romney (in own humble opinion) is not the guy to lead America. He's far too much of a reactionist leader. Plus he changes his mind on social decisions (gay marriage, abortion) in-order to get the conversative vote to become the President. I think he wants the job just to satisfy his own personal need of achievement. His motivations are wrong in my opinion and I just don't think he can be trusted. Also when it comes to international politics, would he know what to do? I think when it comes to the wider world he'd land his foot in shit right from the start.

Well he's been governor of Massachusetts, he cut taxed and balanced books he was also fantastic at getting bi-partnership with the democrats something like 70%-80% democrats in that state. He's not some guy from out of no-where. As for foreign policy you do know Obama has not once visited Israel right? Israel being an ally to America in the middle east. American's are now of the opinion that America should stay out of "world affairs" that's why you don't see Obama bringing osama bin laden kill to the fray.

[RicFlair]

Well he's been governor of Massachusetts, he cut taxed and balanced books he was also fantastic at getting bi-partnership with the democrats something like 70%-80% democrats in that state. He's not some guy from out of no-where. As for foreign policy you do know Obama has not once visited Israel right? Israel being an ally to America in the middle east. American's are now of the opinion that America should stay out of "world affairs" that's why you don't see Obama bringing osama bin laden kill to the fray.

True he did do that. But he changed his policies and beliefs the moment he started to run for President. He turned his back on gay marriage and abortion. He used his work in Massachusetts to build his political profile. Basically he flip-flopped and you can't trust a politician that changes its stripes too often. Because at the end of the day what do they really stand for and what do they really want to get done?

Obama on the hand other will force through what he wants and he will stay on coarse. At least you know what you'll get with him. When it comes to the international policies of Obama. Staying out of the world scene was great. Not visiting Israel and largely ignoring them is also great. Isreal is just a trouble maker. Also he's contained Iran with the toughest sanctions in history and he didn't have to invade.

Personally, if I was the president of America. I'd open up trade relations with Iran. Support their nuclear program for internal energy and force a sit down treaty between Israel and Iran. If Israel and Iran rejected that. I'd cut trade with Isreal and continue the sanctions on Iran. Way too much time in the world is spent dealing with both of them and I think tough love is needed for both countries in the name of world peace.

Just my opinion.

[RicFlair]

Current Electoral vote...

Obama 157

Romney 162

[Dub Lad]

Ric I'll reply to the previous post when I get up tomorrow, I'm just going to go to bed and listen to it play out over the radio, it's looking like Obama has it

[RicFlair]

Ric I'll reply to the previous post when I get up tomorrow, I'm just going to go to bed and listen to it play out over the radio, it's looking like Obama has it

Nighty night Dublad.

It could still go either way and never consider Florida as counted and done until it actually is counted and done.