True Independent Escorts and Agency Escorts

[Rachel Divine]

I have been talking to a friend and we agreed over this:
Agency it is an issue once the girl can stand for herself and leave to work on her own, as independent.
I have been told as well, girls working for the agency are allowed to take time off whenever they want for as much as they want.

The best part of being indie it is the option to choose the client you will going to see,to speak over the phone with him directly,to stay over time if you wish so , at the cost of paying your own accommodation , ad ...

[Curvaceous Kate]

Rachel said she operated with an agency and they are not as bad as everyone likes to think they are. Yet she got scorned for it repreatedly by the so called "independent escort posse" on the thread for even suggesting that agencies don't always rip off escorts. THe funny thing is that a lot of those escorts actually were involved in operating agencies themselves.

Really? That's news to me. I don't know who these lady's are, but I can assure you I am not one of them and I can only think that there is more to this than meets the eye, because no one has suggested the women are worse, in fact the general consensus is that the women are the same, it is the structure that is different. I don't know where Sam has got the word 'better' from either. There are good and bad Escorts as Independent and Agency.

I really did think we were just talking about a title and the definition, but it seems there is much more to it than that. I wish people would introduced threads about the actual subject matter, so people knew where they stood, as this has baffled me. I have no idea about the politics of Escorting going on in Ireland or how bad the Agencies are meant to be. However the introduction said they take half the wage and I did think that was steep, so commented on it.

An Escort is an individual and we are all different. It doesn't matter if we work for ourselves, a parlour or an Agency. What matters is if we are happy doing it and if we have the choice to do it. That has nothing to do with if they are Independent or not though, that is purely a matter of if they Independently arrange their own work and work alone.

No one is saying that is 'the best' they are simply saying that is the definition. Why make something out of nothing and accuse people of being horrible to Rachel etc. Any of the responses Rachel got were due to the things she wrote on this thread and the fact that she wasn't responding to the comments and putting words in people's mouths. It's ever so slightly irritating.

[samlad]

Really? That's news to me. I don't know who these lady's are, but I can assure you I am not one of them and I can only think that there is more to this than meets the eye, because no one has suggested the women are worse, in fact the general consensus is that the women are the same, it is the structure that is different. I don't know where Sam has got the word 'better' from either. There are good and bad Escorts as Independent and Agency.

I really did think we were just talking about a title and the definition, but it seems there is much more to it than that. I wish people would introduced threads about the actual subject matter, so people knew where they stood, as this has baffled me. I have no idea about the politics of Escorting going on in Ireland or how bad the Agencies are meant to be. However the introduction said they take half the wage and I did think that was steep, so commented on it.

An Escort is an individual and we are all different. It doesn't matter if we work for ourselves, a parlour or an Agency. What matters is if we are happy doing it and if we have the choice to do it. That has nothing to do with if they are Independent or not though, that is purely a matter of if they Independently arrange their own work and work alone.

No one is saying that is 'the best' they are simply saying that is the definition. Why make something out of nothing and accuse people of being horrible to Rachel etc. Any of the responses Rachel got were due to the things she wrote on this thread and the fact that she wasn't responding to the comments and putting words in people's mouths. It's ever so slightly irritating.

Neither do I? I did quote that as someone seemed to think that this is what I am implying. You need to read the posts again.

[Curvaceous Kate]

Yet they have travel and accomodation arranged for them and come from countries where the GDP per capita is pretty low.

10 clients a weekly period for months, with 50% taken in and then they are flown back to their origin countries, they would be loaded. Not to mention tips and hidden charges.

Yes, theres no need to gloss over the fact that exploitation does occur sometimes in such arrangements, you're right there, but who is anyone to say that those escorts feel exploited.

But the look at the flow, 700 escorts? coming from origin countries with a low GDP per capita, with rather exorbitant prices for sexual services compared to other european countries. In netherlands its way cheaper for a shag, in Ireland its way higher.

Steep? what a load of bollox

Then you wonder why women are waltzing around the country in business with syndicates making millions with the escorts aswell making a handy sum to bring back to their origin countries.

Selling sex is big business.

With all due respect the financial situation of where they come from has nothing to do with it. If it was a fair percentage, there would be Escorts of ALL nationalities working for them and not just the ones that come from poor Countries. That is called taking advantage. A bit like gap using young children at a 1p a day in poor countries. Are you really advacating that?

[Rachel Divine]

What % would take an independent escort running an agency, I wonder.. Less than 50% as the agencies in Ireland, more maybe?!
Why do they have girls working for/with them if it is not money?! Charity perhaps?!
Should those ladies be listed as independent or agency, as most of us want the agency to be listed as such..?!

That "indie" is it a criminal?! Does she take advantage?!

Within the law , yes, but not on other escorts eyes...

[Luna Nueva]

For the escorts with good English good organisation skills i think it's not profitable. I guess after so many pages that's the only conclusion.

The only agencies i would work for would be the ones bringing me clients out of EI. They have to be very professional and i would also request a minimum of clients daily if they require commission.

The only problem i have is with girls forced to pay, even though agencies are not helping. And of course trafficked girls.

[Curvaceous Kate]

What % would take an independent escort running an agency, I wonder.. Less than 50% as the agencies in Ireland, more maybe?!
Why do they have girls working for/with them if it is not money?! Charity perhaps?!
Should those ladies be listed as independent or agency, as most of us want the agency to be listed as such..?!

That "indie" is it a criminal?! Does she take advantage?!

Within the law , yes, but not on other escorts eyes...

I've already mentioned that in England agencies generally charge a third and this seems more reasonable.

Why do they have to have Agency or Independent before the word 'Escort'? Can they not just be described as an Escort?

I think the problem here is not about what she is called, but the implications behind the word 'Agency' and that it puts her at greater risk with the law. Why didn't you just say that in the first place? No one wants to see anyone get deported and prosecuted for trying to earn a living.

[Curvaceous Kate]

Actually their financial situation has a lot got to do with it. They see it as a fair percentage because 50% cut is far more than what they could make in their origin countries or even other wealthy european countries like Netherlands and Deutschland where the prices for a shag are much lower.

In fact the prices for a shag in Ireland are rather exorbitant when compared to those countries.

You might not see it as a fair percentage because you are a northern european probably coming from a more wealthy background when compared to people from less wealthy countries, of course you would see the prices as unfair.

BTW look at prices of property in south america, you would find its way lower than europe, lots of escorts come from south america, put 2 and 2 together.

If they think it is fair, why do most that stay here move on to work Independently once they have learnt the skills and feel confident enough to be Independent? Do you think they are being greedy?

[mellors]

Kate, i've been reading the boards for about 2years now and i'm still baffled by most posts/ threads. Hidden agendas, rumour, gossip and false poster ID all add to the confusion !

[Luna Nueva]

Actually their financial has a lot got to do with it. They see it as a fair percentage because 50% cut is far more than what they could make in their origin countries or even other wealthy european countries like Netherlands and Deutschland where the prices for a shag are much lower.

In fact the prices for a shag in Ireland are rather exorbitant when compared to those countries.

You might not see it as a fair percentage because you are a northern european coming from a more wealthy background.

In NL is legal, which results more girls, more competition... less charges.
In DE there are many brothels, which means the same, a lot of competition ...

Here are less girls and of course, charging more.

In London are over 2000 escorts ...

Plus the fact that Ireland is the second in EU after Luxembourg with the highest salaries.

Life cost n Ireland is much higher than most of the other European countries.

There are so many reasons for the prices to be higher, but doesn't change anything... because life is expensive as well, escorts have to live as well, remember that only the rental are around 1000 to 2000 euro monthly for touring escorts... plus transport, food, etc...