You better be in love or married if you want to have sex (according to labour women)!

[Morpheus]

Half man half dildo started a good thread on the labour womens' submisison on the review of legislation on prostitution. However, it's been lost in General Chat and I can't find it. So here's another thread on it. Of the submisions I've read e.g. from Ruhama and like minded groups, this is the most achaic and draconian! And what's scary is that this is from a political party in power!


Here's a little snipet

Question 4. What benefit might ensue from a ban on purchasing sexual services?

Prostitution is not a "service". Sex with another human being cannot be reduced to a service. The act of "purchase" in prostitution is an ........

The ultimate beneficiaries of the ban will be the communities and the society as a whole, where harmful degrading practice of prostitution will decrease. The ban on paid sex is the right message to give to younger generations and brings to the fore well established values of the Irish society, such as the importance of relationship and marriage, the appreciation of sex associated with affection rather than with anonymity and power, gender equality, the unconditional rejection of sexual exploitation of children and other vulnerable people.


I fully believe in love, relationships and marriage. But to limit sex to those settings only leaves those of us outside those spheres with no option for a sex life. Is it just me, or do these sound like shades of previous religious groups exerting power over the sex lives of the population? Ironically, I hear that there are a lot of atheists in Labour! Obviously they are cut from the same thread, afterall exerting powert over others isn't limited to religious hierachy.


It's also ironic that the "Workers party" will not recognise escorts as workers! And any of us that know anything about this business, know that escorts works very hard for their money and should be entitled to "workers rights" as any other worker.

[very shy guy]

Half man half dildo started a good thread on the labour womens' submisison on the review of legislation on prostitution. However, it's been lost in General Chat and I can't find it. So here's another thread on it. Of the submisions I've read e.g. from Ruhama and like minded groups, this is the most achaic and draconian! And what's scary is that this is from a political party in power!


Here's a little snipet

Question 4. What benefit might ensue from a ban on purchasing sexual services?

Prostitution is not a "service". Sex with another human being cannot be reduced to a service. The act of "purchase" in prostitution is an ........

The ultimate beneficiaries of the ban will be the communities and the society as a whole, where harmful degrading practice of prostitution will decrease. The ban on paid sex is the right message to give to younger generations and brings to the fore well established values of the Irish society, such as the importance of relationship and marriage, the appreciation of sex associated with affection rather than with anonymity and power, gender equality, the unconditional rejection of sexual exploitation of children and other vulnerable people.


I fully believe in love, relationships and marriage. But to limit sex to those settings only leaves those of us outside those spheres with no option for a sex life. Is it just me, or do these sound like shades of previous religious groups exerting power over the sex lives of the population? Ironically, I hear that there are a lot of atheists in Labour! Obviously they are cut from the same thread, afterall exerting powert over others isn't limited to religious hierachy.


It's also ironic that the "Workers party" will not recognise escorts as workers! And any of us that know anything about this business, know that escorts works very hard for their money and should be entitled to "workers rights" as any other worker.

Still think you should be running the country Morpheus,and yes it does sound like the clergy have labour by the balls.

[Rachel Divine]

I remember a client telling me about years ago to get condoms the guy had to be in a relationship and the doctor would give him the condoms with a prescription (if I am not wrong)..

Casual sex is no shame and nobody should fell bad about it.

I am afraid the religion still has a big impact in Ireland in this days and that is a shame!

I will be on twitter later on, dont make much difference but still....

[Curvaceous Kate]

It must be lovely to have your head in the clouds and live in such an adyllic world where there is someone for everyone and we all find love and live happily ever after, but reality is nothing like that. Men and women can spend most of their lives single, be it intentional or not. There are people who have social disorders, who find it incredibly difficult to make connections with anyone, let alone fall in love, people with disabilities and people who are shy or work driven and just don't have the time. Are we to believe that this whole cross section of people are to live without the joy of sex, because of politics?

Now who is playing at being God?

You are also condemning people outside of relationships to a shorter life if they are not allowed to have sex. There are numerous articles like this one to be found on the net.

http://www.hitchedmag.com/article.php?id=968

This article gives 7 good reasons why sex is important to us al, regardless of our relationships.

1. Increases Immunity to Infection
2. Improve Cardiovascular Health
3. Reduce Risks of Prostate Cancer
4. Decrease Incontinence for Men and Women
5. Reduce the Possibility of Osteoporosis
6. Increase Longevity
7. Burns Calories

After reading that, I think our services should be on the national health!!!

http://www.nigeriafilms.com/news/126...y-8-years.html

[Rachel Divine]

I wouldn't feel bad about it

Hope not babe

[the traveller]

I fully believe in love, relationships and marriage. But to limit sex to those settings only leaves those of us outside those spheres with no option for a sex life

This is just as I find myself now and put that in my submission. Is the only sex in Ireland now to be maternal and for the procreation of the human race. Will the Labour women make casual sex illegal, after all, I'm sure we all know there are females that go out on a Friday, Saturday night with the sole intention of getting hammered and laid! I'm sure they won't, as then the evil male rapist won't be to blame.
There is a stage in life when you can find yourself single and all the avenues that you used to use to find members of the opposite sex are not available to you any more as you're past that stage in life ( unless you want to be the oldest swinger in town). And to be honest at that stage most of the ladies that are left single are single for a reason. I might be past my youth but I'm not ready to just curl up and die, and I say thankyou to the sex workers of Ireland, you carry out an invaluable service and I love you all for it.

P.S. Great to see you posting here again Rachel.

[saoirsemac]

good thing i make love to my clients


phew!



i say ban bars and nightclubs as they lead to casual sex

it needs to be banned, we can have people having sex


i support them 100% u need to be in love to have sex and thats the only way yup

as i said im in love with my clients (big heart i have) so im exempt


i wonder tho, do both have be in love? or else at least one of the women are having sex illegal

odds are one of there husbands is with them for the kids etc

[braveboy]

why do women (and though not of course exclusively, I do feel its a particularly feminine trait) feel they have a god given right to dictate to other women how they should lead their lives?

Surely the blindingly obvious thing for any concerned person is to ensure that sex workers (and clients of) are provided with a regulated and safe framework for their profession and get back to trying to save the real economy from annihilation.

Christ, I destest these people. Everything they do is selfish and self serving. I don't believe any of them would have the courage to make a living on their own wit or guile.

[saoirsemac]

why do women (and though not of course exclusively, I do feel its a particularly feminine trait) feel they have a god given right to dictate to other women how they should lead their lives?

Surely the blindingly obvious thing for any concerned person is to ensure that sex workers (and clients of) are provided with a regulated and safe framework for their profession and get back to trying to save the real economy from annihilation.

Christ, I destest these people. Everything they do is selfish and self serving. I don't believe any of them would have the courage to make a living on their own wit or guile.

because in the gender battles of centuries the only people women cud bully was other women

[braveboy]

because in the gender battles of centuries the only people women cud bully was other women

are we still stuck back there? Nothing been leant from decades of the female revolution? Will women not ever help each other unless its a self serving agenda?