Timewasters???

[Busty Malena]

Hi!!! Thanks for pointing out that issue, because I think that review I have received is not fair at all. The worst thing is only a small percentage of clients write reviews, but a large percentage read them and make their own opinions depending on them. What can the escort do in this case? NOTHING. Because is my word against his word, u could say I didnt make apointments that day, but I did, all I can say is i never leave a client waiting outside 3 hours!!!! If i do that i will not be working anymore. I dont know who this man is but I can see he is unhappy in his life and his aim is putting me back on bussiness, because he signed up just for telling that saying "AVoid at all costs", and when punters see that maybe they change their minds and dont want to call me , because a review made for someone who hasnt visited me! So, I prefer thinking all the clients are smart and realize that this review is made by someone who is like that and dont stop calling me!!!!!!!
And u, Carlos, u are right, when I started working I had a lot of non show up, now i make the appointment under a confirmation half an h before, a lot of timewasters outside, but if I know u and i know u are not a timewaster u dont have any problems to visit me.

Kisses for everyone in here

[ber]

Hi!!! Thanks for pointing out that issue, because I think that review I have received is not fair at all. The worst thing is only a small percentage of clients write reviews, but a large percentage read them and make their own opinions depending on them. What can the escort do in this case? NOTHING. Because is my word against his word, u could say I didnt make apointments that day, but I did, all I can say is i never leave a client waiting outside 3 hours!!!! If i do that i will not be working anymore. I dont know who this man is but I can see he is unhappy in his life and his aim is putting me back on bussiness, because he signed up just for telling that saying "AVoid at all costs", and when punters see that maybe they change their minds and dont want to call me , because a review made for someone who hasnt visited me! So, I prefer thinking all the clients are smart and realize that this review is made by someone who is like that and dont stop calling me!!!!!!!
And u, Carlos, u are right, when I started working I had a lot of non show up, now i make the appointment under a confirmation half an h before, a lot of timewasters outside, but if I know u and i know u are not a timewaster u dont have any problems to visit me.

Kisses for everyone in here

I think it is plain for everyone here to see that u are an honest professional lady who
is transparent and provides a good value good quality service and i for one feel u
should be in every way encouraged to continue to do so
This little incident is not going to make one iota of difference to your buisness or reputation
as there is too much positive stuff out there already about you and u are showing urself
on theese boards in a really good light, a sense of humour ready to get involved in the banter all round what guys want.
As i have already told u i would love to see u and know that it would be a very good
appointment but alas i am in cork but if u keep up the good work i could be tempted to
travel or better still u might just for even a one off come to see us all in cork a huge
welcome guarnteed

[Quarterpoundher]

High, really informative posts from Bigpaws and Malena, as I stated in earlier posts, I found the reviews by him and others to be really of benefit to Escorts & Client alike, but I had not realized the impact of a malicious review on an Escort. A few reviewers do have disproportionate influence alright but I would like to reassure any Escort that as someone very new (3 Days, aaaagh) to this, I very quickly could tell who seemed to be giving the straight Dope, and who was just a Dope, and anyone who does not have the brain power to tell the difference, is someone you’d probably be better off not having contact with anyway, but it must be infuriating none the less. I don’t know how you could combat this, but at least there is a redress and challenge capability here and E-I and genuine, fair Client contributors are on the case.

Could I just put an idea out there, I don’t know how feasible it would be, but suppose E-I had a policy that only a reg. User could only have a review posted if he gave the Escort on meeting, his E-mail address that he gave to E-I on signing up, if there was an issue for Escort then she could give that to E-1 staff and they could at least tally that it was the same person and that Escort and Client actually meet, if he was uncomfortable with giving E-mail then tough, no review allowed, you could use a password I suppose, request E-I to be a reviewer and they issue password.

Thats just a rough idea, might need tweaking. feel free to blow out of the water.

With Influence comes responsibility and I don’t think its beyond possibility to do something along these lines as peoples professionalism and Honesty are being tarnished here very very easily. You might have less reviewers but those left would have benchmark of sorts and a higher integrity maybe, you would still have She said/ He said scenarios, but with an ability to tally, then they would be identified fast enough,

Just a thought, maybe its been suggested before.

[Epsilon]

I think that the reviews are a good reference tool to work with, but need to be looked at with sceptical eyes. A girl with 5 good reviews and one bad one such as Malena, you need to think about the good ones and take the bad witha pinch of salt. if a girls is constantly getting bad reviews, obviously there is something not right and should be avoided or if you decide to visit her its a risk, but you made a choice and cant start shoulting about it afterwards.
Im surprised that not more girls get bad reviews, because people are different and tastes and personalities differ. As we have seen here lately some of the punters on here are just assholes and have no respect for these ladies and that is going to reflect in the service they recieve where if you treat a lady with the respect they deserve you will have a much better experience.
At the end of the day, every time that we visit a girl we take several risks. are the pics real? is she a total minger or the goddess in the photos? what is her English like? will she be like a robot?
there is no money back guarentees with this so if you make a bad choice tough... put up and shut up. if she has warts and two bouncers standing outside the room yeah we all need to know, but if you dont like her as a person... well thats just life.

[carlos marvado]

Let me cut through the hypocrisy here Epsilon and make a very simple universal statement of fact. A man who pays a woman, another man, or a transgendered person money so that they can use their body for their own sexual gratification, does not respect that person. If you think you respect the escorts that you use, then I'd be interested to see how you treat somebody that you actually love.

Leaving morality and legality aside, punting/escorting is a business transaction where both parties get something that they want from the other. The best that you can hope for under these circumstances is to make the experience as pleasant as possible for all concerned. On the part of the punter, this involves being on time, clean and tidy, and treating the escort in a friendly/courteous manner.

No escort that I have had an honest conversation with, ever said that she liked the work. It 's all about money and the sex itself is purely an act to get money; no different to a stage or screen actor. Some are good actors, and some not so good.

Having said all that, behind every actor's mask, there is a real person. And many are very nice people. If you want to get to know the real person and make a friend, the first thing you stop doing is paying that person so you can use them. Now that you have started to show them some respect, they may respect you back and see you as something other than a prick attached to a fat wallet.

[Epsilon]

Let me cut through the hypocrisy here Epsilon and make a very simple universal statement of fact. A man who pays a woman, another man, or a transgendered person money so that they can use their body for their own sexual gratification, does not respect that person. If you think you respect the escorts that you use, then I'd be interested to see how you treat somebody that you actually love.

Leaving morality and legality aside, punting/escorting is a business transaction where both parties get something that they want from the other. The best that you can hope for under these circumstances is to make the experience as pleasant as possible for all concerned. On the part of the punter, this involves being on time, clean and tidy, and treating the escort in a friendly/courteous manner.

No escort that I have had an honest conversation with, ever said that she liked the work. It 's all about money and the sex itself is purely an act to get money; no different to a stage or screen actor. Some are good actors, and some not so good.

Having said all that, behind every actor's mask, there is a real person. And many are very nice people. If you want to get to know the real person and make a friend, the first thing you stop doing is paying that person so you can use them. Now that you have started to show them some respect, they may respect you back and see you as something other than a prick attached to a fat wallet.

Thats a very strong statement to make Carlos.
Yes we do pay girls to have sex, but they are offering a service and they are in most cases doing it by choice. They may not like it but there are no guns against thier heads(most cases)
To say no man respects a woman he pays to have sex with is bullshit. Some of these girls are making a very good living from escorting and some even enjoy it. I spoke to a girl recently and she told me her swimming pool at home was leaking and she had just bought a new bmw convertable... realy hard life....I dont think.
Personaly i have respect for these women who go out and do a job that most will not do. I never claimed to love or even like most of these girls but treating them with respect is a different matter.
love is a different matter and you dont know me or anything about me so you have no right to comment about how i treat people i do love..
You may not have any respect for them but you cant speak for everybody else here.
To conclude, respect for somebody is totaly different to liking or loving them. treating escorts with respect is the minimum we should do, after all they are human beings with feelings and insecurities like everybody else and should treated as such.

[carlos marvado]

Even if you are correct Epsilon, that it is possible to respect somebody that you are only using for sex, whether you're paying for it, or given freely as in a one night stand, nobody can possibly say, that they respect all escorts including those they have only just met or have never met. It's like saying you respect all politicians, doctors, accountants, solicitors etc. Respect is something a person gets from you after you have gotten to know them well; they have earned it in your eyes for whatever reason. Or you respect a person from what you know about them.

I still believe it is impossible to truely respect a person where the relationship is based on making use of them. Any man who respects a given woman, would not dream of offering that woman inducements incl. money to have sex with them. It just defies logic. It would be the same as saying

Drug pushers respect the law
Muggers and burglars respect their victims
Politicians respect the electorate ( they only respect the verdict of the electorate because they have no choice )

I have an idea where your coming from Epsilon, and while my own sentiments are not that dissimilar to your's, I just feel that using the word 'respect' in this particular context is stretching it.

What are your thoughts on "empathise"?

[UKHeather]

No escort that I have had an honest conversation with, ever said that she liked the work. It 's all about money and the sex itself is purely an act to get money; no different to a stage or screen actor. Some are good actors, and some not so good.

I really do think you have been speaking to a small sample of escorts with a particular mindset in that case.

Of course it's about money, it would be silly to deny that. Isn't that why everyone works? Could you accept that some people are lucky enough to enjoy the sex, the work in general and feel a thrill that they can combine that with earning a good living? You're not alone, however, lots of guys are convinced that orgasms are always faked, women are only acting etc... Many seem to find it difficult to believe that any woman could really enjoy this work. I suspect that is down to a mix of their own insecurity, bad experiences and the image that is generally portrayed of prostitutes.

Naturally there will be many ladies who hate what they do and/or get no pleasure from it. I feel for them, their working life must be simply awful. Just because these appear to be the only group of ladies you are familiar with, it's really a mistake to assume that its the case right across the board.

Heather

[Busty Malena]

This thread is becoming hard to my young brain

I think u can pay money to get sex and u can still respect the girl, the ideal situation is the man pay the girl without saying it is expensive or causing silly troubles, beeing respectuful, dont treating the girl as an object, causing her pain, and the girl does what she is offering, which is sex and "companionship", doing it kindly with a smile on their face, same if u were a nurse, a dependant in a store, it is very good when u go shopping and people treat u with a smile. It is better keep it simple, this is not about love or tenderness, it is a different thing. And regarding if we like doing this bussiness, I think u should do it if u think u do the right for u, for ur body and life, u took ur chance. But when u do it obligued or hating it, u should leave it, because it could becaume awful then.

[Flypan]

Carlitos… do you know what is respect at all? Respect within this threat, to begin with, means accepting the other person’s opinion and right to expression, and not trying to force that person to deliver an opinion that will make you look good, that will feed your ego, or that will fit any other personal interest of yours. Being forceful in the intent to limit or manipulate the other person’s opinion is a waste of time, for both and for others. You have your opinion, others have their own opinion, fact of live which if you cannot accept then you have no place in this life, or your existence may be a very disgraceful one for you and for the ones closer to you. While I can agree with most of Epsilon opinion in this thread, this doesn’t makes us buddies, or best friends at all, and not agreeing with him shouldn’t make us enemies neither, but sometimes people make mistakes. I agree that there can be respect from an escort to a punter, and from a punter to an escort, it’s up to our own attitude and intention. But attitude is a way of living, so if we do not respect our work-mates, our social lads, our family circle even, could we pretend to respect an escort?? Respect means acknowledging the boundaries set out by the other person within the context of the relationship which may take place, and I have no problems in doing so.