The 'TORL' Lies Regarding The Movement Of Escorts

Here at Escort-Ireland, we try not to jump head-first into the debate over the law changes in regards to the purchasing of sex, for reasons that those in the escort world will be well aware of.

But for some reason, when TORL claim that supply for services had reduced due to a “85% increase in online prostitution in Dundalk.
We wonder where thy get their figures from, as when we looked, that number doesn't seem to add up.

Read our article to know more:
https://www.escort-ireland.com/blog/...nt-of-escorts/

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Originally Posted by Floki

Here at Escort-Ireland, we try not to jump head-first into the debate over the law changes in regards to the purchasing of sex, for reasons that those in the escort world will be well aware of.

But for some reason, when TORL claim that supply for services had reduced due to a “85% increase in online prostitution in Dundalk.
We wonder where thy get their figures from, as when we looked, that number doesn't seem to add up.

Read our article to know more:
https://www.escort-ireland.com/blog/...nt-of-escorts/

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Will they jump up and down about the 16 trafficked agricultural workers discovered in Armagh yesterday. No I don't think so And yet the will come with an 85% figure for Dundalk. The mind boggles

Another indication maybe the number of reviews Floki.

June 2014 there were 29 reviews submitted. June 2015 there were 29 reviews submitted... Doh!

It is sensationally way off stuff . You got to stand by all the stuff you say. Long term, there won't be a mainstream audience for them that would trust them. They drive the discussion around escorting to the extremes. There has got to be some nuance going forward, but its not coming from their side

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Originally Posted by JAMESCORK

Another indication maybe the number of reviews Floki.

June 2014 there were 29 reviews submitted. June 2015 there were 29 reviews submitted... Doh!

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Don't you just love consistency? This time of year is notoriously quiet for Belfast due to the marches and holidays etc, so consequently numbers go down. Of course that also leaves numbers open for manipulation unless you use the facts from previous years as well, which they won't do.

Cant see how they would have the numbers for last year or any other - they seem to be making them up anyway

These organisations never let facts or honesty get in the way of a good headline .
And media organisations don't appear to have journalists who care to check these statements and give any counter argument .

It's all about funding. And we all know low the charity scene works here . Top earners will lie through their smiles to mentain their positions and expenses

Maybe they picked figures from a different advertising site that may have seen such an increase.

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Originally Posted by eirefella

Maybe they picked figures from a different advertising site that may have seen such an increase.

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Which one are you thinking of? I use most of the ones that Independent Escorts can use and I've not seen any increase like this at all. I've just checked AW and there is nothing. Vivastreet has one male advertising and nothing on backpage for Dundalk. Nothing on the site that can not be mentioned either.

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Originally Posted by eirefella

Maybe they picked figures from a different advertising site that may have seen such an increase.

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Did you mean "cherry picked" there? :)

Reminds me of this:

http://i.imgur.com/mp5eB9G.gif

It's the same bullshit approach by all outfits with agendas that contradict reality.

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Originally Posted by CurvaceousKate

Which one are you thinking of? I use most of the ones that Independent Escorts can use and I've not seen any increase like this at all. I've just checked AW and there is nothing. Vivastreet has one male advertising and nothing on backpage for Dundalk. Nothing on the site that can not be mentioned either.

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I'd say their sums went something like this, Site A had 1 lady, now has 2 so that's a 50% increase, Site B had 2 and now there's 3 so that's a 33% increase, add the 2 which makes it 83% and lets round it off to 85% :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Zealot7

Reminds me of this:

http://i.imgur.com/mp5eB9G.gif

It's the same bullshit approach by all outfits with agendas that contradict reality.

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and ironically enough most of science/medicine itself! :dance:

No legislation should be passed without lobbyist figures being fully verified. This and so many other TORL 'facts' are simply fantasy stats with no basis in reality.

The numbers thrown around regarding sex work are often an insult to the intelligence. Latest example is the recent speech by the Pope (head of an organisation responsible for genuine human trafficking on a massive scale) quoting the 'example' of a Mexican teenage girl who was apparently made to service over 42000 men in a five year period. That works out at more than 23 men per day, every day for five years, clearly impossible yet accepted as fact and quoted in The Guardian amongst others.

Human trafficking has become a catch-all term for everything from genuine coercion to voluntary economic migration. As such it becomes a moral panic, obscuring the people who genuinely require help with the majority who don't. The only ones benefitting from the deliberate lies of TORL, Ruhama etc are the organisations themselves. This issue needs to be looked at realistically and without prejudice. In Britain this has already been done and the failed Swedish model rejected. Don't expect Ireland to demonstrate such common sense though.

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Originally Posted by Davidontour

No legislation should be passed without lobbyist figures being fully verified. This and so many other TORL 'facts' are simply fantasy stats with no basis in reality.

The numbers thrown around regarding sex work are often an insult to the intelligence. Latest example is the recent speech by the Pope (head of an organisation responsible for genuine human trafficking on a massive scale) quoting the 'example' of a Mexican teenage girl who was apparently made to service over 42000 men in a five year period. That works out at more than 23 men per day, every day for five years, clearly impossible yet accepted as fact and quoted in The Guardian amongst others.

Human trafficking has become a catch-all term for everything from genuine coercion to voluntary economic migration. As such it becomes a moral panic, obscuring the people who genuinely require help with the majority who don't. The only ones benefitting from the deliberate lies of TORL, Ruhama etc are the organisations themselves. This issue needs to be looked at realistically and without prejudice. In Britain this has already been done and the failed Swedish model rejected. Don't expect Ireland to demonstrate such common sense though.

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Best post this year!

Yes agree, but because the Escort world is so private, interest groups benefit from the opaqueness. That goes for the other side to Ruhuma. No clear picture??