Hotels, why do you care?

[Patricia]

Can somebody who works or has worked in the Irish hotel industry please tell me why some hotels as so against escorts?

I don't understand it. Of course if the lady was causing undue noise pollution to neighbouring rooms etc, I'd understand it, but most hotel rooms are empty until bedtime anyway.

Hotels are not our moral guardians. They don't care if Mr Smith and Mrs Jones check in together. Why so against escorts?

Pat x

[Taylor of Manchester]

I've never had any problems, though saying that now is probably tempting fate!!

Maybe they don't like to think of 'that sort of thing' going on. I know back in the UK the don't give a fiddlers f*** what you get up to!!!

Having spent time in a Cork hotel recently though, there were a couple of girls working from the same one that were less than discreet, I couldn't get out quick enough for that reason!

T
xx

[anabolic]

Hi Patricia,

The general rule of thumb (at least the one I enforce) is that if the escort/punter is not indiscreet then it is not a problem. If not then action will be taken for a number of reasons , the most prevalent 2 being :
- No hotel can afford to get a reputation as a "Knocking shop" as it will have a negative affect on the Tourist/Business bookings (people do not want to be seen staying in any premises that has this reputation.

- The other (and probably the main issue) is the blurry legalities of the issue) If for example there was 6 Escorts working out of the hotel then as far as I am aware the owner of the premises may be held legally responsible for allowing his premises to be used for this purpose and for profitting from " immoral" earnings.
I am not saying that this is the exact ,or even accurate legal position, but it is the theory held by the majority of the people in the trade.

Hope this is of some help and I haven't rambled on incessantly.

[Langer]

Hi Patricia,

The general rule of thumb (at least the one I enforce) is that if the escort/punter is not indiscreet then it is not a problem. If not then action will be taken for a number of reasons , the most prevalent 2 being :
- No hotel can afford to get a reputation as a "Knocking shop" as it will have a negative affect on the Tourist/Business bookings (people do not want to be seen staying in any premises that has this reputation.

- The other (and probably the main issue) is the blurry legalities of the issue) If for example there was 6 Escorts working out of the hotel then as far as I am aware the owner of the premises may be held legally responsible for allowing his premises to be used for this purpose and for profitting from " immoral" earnings.
I am not saying that this is the exact ,or even accurate legal position, but it is the theory held by the majority of the people in the trade.

Hope this is of some help and I haven't rambled on incessantly.

I'm afraid I have a little bad news Anabolic. Your 6 escorts allowance is a little optimistic. In fact the law is that any premises with more than one lady working is considered a brothel and as such the owners can be held legally responsible. Ignorance is not a defence and the onus is on the owner to prove they were unaware of what was happening. For example if a night porter knew and no action was taken, the hotel is liable, if the receptionist had a suspicion, the hotel is liable. So its not really surprising some hotels are a little intense. Its as Anabolic said...no hotel wants the name and its future can be seriously jeopardised. After the In Dublin magazine lesson people are more aware of the consequences.

[ber]

I'm afraid I have a little bad news Anabolic. Your 6 escorts allowance is a little optimistic. In fact the law is that any premises with more than one lady working is considered a brothel and as such the owners can be held legally responsible. Ignorance is not a defence and the onus is on the owner to prove they were unaware of what was happening. For example if a night porter knew and no action was taken, the hotel is liable, if the receptionist had a suspicion, the hotel is liable. So its not really surprising some hotels are a little intense. Its as Anabolic said...no hotel wants the name and its future can be seriously jeopardised. After the In Dublin magazine lesson people are more aware of the consequences.

would this also mean that even if the lady was independent booked in on her own once there was another lady working from the same hotel the onus would be on her to prove that she did not know that other ladies were there.Now we are in a grey area because in my experience any popular hotel in any reasonable sized city will have on the law of averages always more than one girl there at any one time and more than likely several
Therefore a girl would have to prove that she was extremley naive or totally stupid to
believe she was the only girl that had a flash of inspiration to work from that hotel.
So much for a girl on her own being legal

[Langer]

would this also mean that even if the lady was independent booked in on her own once there was another lady working from the same hotel the onus would be on her to prove that she did not know that other ladies were there.Now we are in a grey area because in my experience any popular hotel in any reasonable sized city will have on the law of averages always more than one girl there at any one time and more than likely several
Therefore a girl would have to prove that she was extremley naive or totally stupid to
believe she was the only girl that had a flash of inspiration to work from that hotel.
So much for a girl on her own being legal

Hi Ber,

You are exactly right, each lady would have to prove conclusively total ignorance of each others existence and the hotel likewise.

There is no grey area, the law is not on the side of the suspected. Again the onus is on all persons suspected of involvement to prove otherwise.

But sometimes the cops are just interested in shutting down the operation. See the following article and if you see someone looking at you suspiciously...you just might be right....like the six guys in this article http://www.offalyindependent.ie/stor...d=181&cid2=206