Too many fakes in Cork again

[Langer]

DIRTYDAN: This Agency doesn't have a name, it's just a group of pimps who import girls not just to Cork but other counties particularly Limerick, Galway, and Kerry etc and call them independents.

Some of these escorts are put up in hotels and a lot of them in Cork are based in that hovel on the lower road just below the train station. Their operation is transient and they never stay in the same place for more than a few months.

Regular punters ringing so called independent escorts and getting directed to the same location time after time tend to twig these things.......some obviously take longer than others

So basically Dirty Dan this is your take on it. How the fuck do you know about pimps, different counties, being put up in hotels etc etc. Its complete guesswork on your behalf without a shred of proof. Because if you could prove it, then trafficking would be definite. But you cant prove it...fact

And what is fact is: There is no agency involved ...full stop....even if it were happening like you said...it is not an agency! Can you understand that DirtyDan or would you like me to type more slowly??

and more of you showing your ignorance:

DIRTYDAN I never mentioned trafficking.
I said girls were imported, ie, brought from one location to another.
Whether this importation is done by consent is something I have no knowledge of much the same as I would have no real knowledge of the circumstances of any other escort

Consent to be 'imported' or not...is trafficking you fucking simpleton. You cannot import a human being...FULL STOP... you idiot.

So basically up to now its all hearsay and supposition in your little mind. On the other hand I'm not saying its not true but where the fuck did you get your adventure story from? pimps, trafficking, hovels...there is a book in there somewhere or it shows you are an avid Sunday World reader and we all know how fucking brain dead you'd want to be to believe that rag.

And as Colombo would say: Just one last question....Is Dirtydan and indication of your personal hygiene or your morals?

[dirtydan]

You really are some langer.

This hard man/seasoned punter image you try to cultivate sadly falls well short of the mark
Every time you post you show yourself up and all your bravado and bluster means nothing at all.

This one line out of all the shit you wrote just about sums you up….. So basically up to now its all hearsay and supposition in your little mind. On the other hand I'm not saying its not true……………

Your lack of knowledge of the local escort scene is not in itself a bad thing but when some pseudo monger like you comes along and gives it the big “I am” and then subsequently fails to live up to his self proclaimed hype without even the most basic insight into how things work I find it hilarious.

Be a good little boy now and climb back in your box, I have already wasted too much time on a muppet like you.

PS. Seeing as you have difficulty understanding some words I wrote in particular the definition of the word "IMPORT" I will include the following link to help you out.....no need to thank me.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=import

[Langer]

I have to congratulate you on your intelligently worded reply to my concerns on your alluded conspiracy. Its all quite clear to me now.

I apologise if I spoiled your little story but I was just trying to stop you making a bigger fucking dope out of yourself. But you have done the impossible, you singlehandedly even managed to make a bigger prick of yourself.

I have seen more active intelligence in frog spawn, do you work for the Sunday World by any chance?

[dirtydan]

Seeing as you are obviously someone who is an aggressive poster but can’t bear to have your own posts or yourself questioned or contradicted I could toy with you all night.
At any given time I could get a prescribed response from you....…ever heard of Pavlov’s dog?

You could be my bitch.

[Langer]

Erm... I think you missed something old stock? I questioned your post and you done the Pavlov’s dog bit as you will again. You're to fucking studid to even realise I'm just here to get a reaction from dickheads like you. So come on doggy take the bait By the time I'm finished with you, I will make you sound dumber that Flyshit An amazing feat some people might think but ok so its true I haven't far to go and it will be easy with you.

SIT MankyDan or DirtyDick or FilthyFucker or PavlovsPrick

[mailman]

Sorry lads, I was busy in the recording studio (https://www.escort-ireland.com/busin...its-guide.html) and didn't see this thread's updates until now.

I certainly don't want trafficked girls advertised on this website.

And I would appreciate it if anyone has any suggestions as to what we can practically do to deter this happening.

First suggestion, can you split Langers posts into another thread. They are bringing this off topic.

I certainly don't want trafficked girls advertised on this website.

I wouldn't blame you, unknowing punters who end up visiting them would seriously reconsider punting again after experiencing that scenario. It WILL affect the standard of this site and people will treat it with scepticism after that experience.

I haven't gone off Googling to see if I can find links between the phone numbers of any of these ladies yet etc, but say I do that now, and I find links... What can we best do about it?

If we confront the ladies and tell them we think they are an agency etc... Are they not just going to go away and come back with new numbers? If we refuse to take ads from them, won't they just change their names, photos etc too?

What can we do about this? Your ideas and suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks

Pat x

I dont know Pat, i dont have the solution but i do know there is a problem.

This isn't a situation of an escort providing poor service and punters giving out about it. This is going beyond that, it is not an escort providing a service. Escorts have the option to not see a client if they are worried about their safety. These girls see clients because they have a quota to meet.

An escort charges for her time and companionship only. Yes, escorts often have sex with their clients, but that is a matter of coincidence and choice between consenting adults... It is not the escort selling sex to the client!

There is no coincidence here. These girls do not have a choice. Its a bad seedy environment for them and its not about time and companionship.

In my opinion this is going into a whole other area aside from escorting. Its abuse and exploitation. It is forced labour. Normal rules should not apply.

"We are a female owned and operated business that cares about the escorts that advertise with us, the clients that use our website and the overall well-being of our industry. We work very hard to provide a top quality service to our advertising customers and website users."

This situation does not fit the bill Pat, and no where near it. I cannot define it for you and differentiate but its clearly not the same thing.

Some suggested that ringing the Gardai is the most practical way to deal with it. Its definitely something that should be brought to their attention.

For punters, this is more than and completely different to visiting an escort for time and companionship. Punters are unknowingly part taking is something that is criminal and morally wrong. These girls are not escorts. There is no mutual respect or consideration because their choice is not in the equation.

[mailman]

There are even more of them now

Where are they all coming from? Its unreal at this stage

[mailman]

Where does a punter stand if he goes to visit (1.) an independent escort and unknowingly ends up in (2.) a brothel with possibly trafficed girls?

Scenario 1 is completely different to scenario 2 as you can imagine, and there is no fine line to be considered either, they are two completely different situations.

1 could result in a bit of fun with a girl offering time and companionship, where as the other could possibly result in doing time.

Would claiming the girl falsely posed as an escort (independent) do anything to help your defence?

[ninebythree]

Where does a punter stand if he goes to visit (1.) an independent escort and unknowingly ends up in (2.) a brothel with possibly trafficed girls?

Scenario 1 is completely different to scenario 2 as you can imagine, and there is no fine line to be considered either, they are two completely different situations.

1 could result in a bit of fun with a girl offering time and companionship, where as the other could possibly result in doing time.

Would claiming the girl falsely posed as an escort (independent) do anything to help your defence?

who would be responsible ...........
the girl would put up the add or the person who let the add go up under false pretens

???????
nbt

[mailman]

who would be responsible ...........
the girl would put up the add or the person who let the add go up under false pretens

???????
nbt

• The girl would be in trouble
• The pimp would be in trouble
• The traffickers would be in trouble

Thats a given

• The website would i'd imagine would be in trouble for encouraging the trafficking, can see how they wouldn't

But where does it leave the punter .... in a world of shit i can only imagine. I honestly cant see how they couldn't be as normal rules dont apply. Its a completely different scenario to visiting an escort ...... so .....

• The punter would be in trouble