GFE must include OWO??? Please give your opinion

[HowlinWolf]

Generally, GFE implies some kind of tenderness similar to what a gf would do during love making. It seems to have become a euphonism for (french) kissing. The argument that a gf would never give a covered bj is fallacious because a gf friend doesn't charge by the hour either!! (Although you do pay in other ways!!).

So people don't ever forget that the tenderness (or domination or submission or agression or whatever you are having yourself) is SIMULATED. We punters are living out a fantasy - she isn't a real gf or mistress or slave or whatever - comparisons with the real thing don't hold.

Capiche?

[Appoline]

I capiche very much. Good post.

[bigpaws]

Oh really Appoline?? So GFE = Kissing but it doesn't = OWO which is why ALL the sites list GFE and OWO as different services?? That is your argument yes?? So why does the other well known Irish escort site list Kissing and GFE seperately if they are, as you say, one and the same thing???

Oh and Howlin I bet you ask escorts to just "hold me please" as well ............. grow a pair and come back to me!!

Paws

[Appoline]

No Paws, my argument is and has always been, that the term 'gfe' was initially created to mean kissing, not owo and not a spectrum of services.

[Appoline]

Ps, as far as I can see the other site lists 'French kissing' as separate to the GFE, perhaps making the distinction between a GFE involving kissing, but French kissing being something else?!
In case some don't tongue kiss I guess?

[mailman]

Oh and Howlin I bet you ask escorts to just "hold me please" as well ............. grow a pair and come back to me!!

Ha ha

"Just hold me, can we stay like this forever?"

[bigpaws]

The question Appoline is not what GFE intially meant in the past etc but what it means NOW ............ there is obviously a difference in opinion, judging from this poll alone, in what a punter expects from GFE and what some escorts are willing to offer as part of their GFE.
So please tell me Appoline, if you can, what EXACTLY (in your opinion) an escort does when offering GFE as opposed to an escort who doesn't offer it??

Paws

[Appoline]

To my mind, 'GFE' means kissing and cuddling. That to me, is it.
Thats my opinion... Ie, if someone comes to me and says 'I want a GFE as part of my service' that is what they'll get.
Like, some people take kissing to mean French kissing... Some people don't.
If we're going to talk simulations of life, ie, a GFE should mean that for that hour, you do exactly what a girl friend does, then fine... but you have to accept that not all girlfriends are the same! Girlfriends don't get paid by the hour, but no one suggests that a girl offering a GFE shouldn't expect to get her fee! If a girl is going to offer a true to life gfe, then every fourth client had better take pot luck on the girl saying 'I don't fancy sex tonight, make me something to eat and give me a backrub, will you?'
Not everyone thinks the same things... Best to check beforehand with the girl in question.

[Violette]

Biggie Paws,
There are some escorts who do OWOw/GFE, and there are some who don't! It is in the end (thank god) the prerogative of the escort, if she choses to offer this service or not. Just as it is your choice whether you make use of the services of a particular escort.

Next you will be insisting that GFE, in addition to including OWO must also included CIM in order for it to be the true GFE. I mean the pit is endless here.

And as Appoline says, the original term was invented to mean a sexual encounter that included kissing.

[Patricia]

I have to say I have always taken GFE to mean kissing, cuddling etc not an indication that OWO is available.

When I worked I did GFE but I didn't generally do OWO. I enjoyed snogging as part of the experience and I saw no negative issues with it for me or my client, but I had concerns that OWO might not always be hygienic and safe.

Just my 2 cents