Gardai start implimenting "zero tolerance " to kerb crawling!

[rubberbootlvr]

As usual in our "great little country" the Fascist police force start implimenting unwritten legislation bushed on them by the religious bigots,now prading under the guise of "womens rights " groups Ruhma to start cracking down on the onstreet soliciting of sex.
Watch out guys!! The Gaurds have started putting plain clothes ban Gardai out in Dublin and will try it in Cork and Limerick as well to try and entrap punters[.How they expect to get any hits with this is odd as most Ban Gardai are so unattractive anyway!!!].BUT if you do approach or are approached by one of these girls.Ask them straight out "Are you a Ban Garda on an undercover operation and are you trying to entrap me?" If they deny it and it transpires that they were Ban Gardai,you can claim that this was an entrapment situation,and they encouraged you to commit a crime.If they admit it,ask to see a warrent card..If they state they havent got one.Go and find a uniformed Garda and ask them to arrest this person for impersonating a police officer..It is illegal for a police officer to be without ID when in plain clothes while on duty.

Reason I 'm posting this simply.I'm fed up of this whole situation of having prostitution illegal in this shithole of a country.Anywhere else in the Western world it is more or less legal,safe,sane and protected by law.Apart from places like Sweden,but who would want to live up in that place anyway??The most miserable country in the western world I've ever been in.Dark,depressing,and so over regulated.

Greatest pic of how it works and is tolerated,was in Sankt Pauli in Hamburg.If you ever go there there is the toughest police station in Germany right in the red light zone,and all the girls have a beat right outside its doors..Everyone is on talking terms,and the girls know that the cops are there to help them if things go wrong..Its not prefect either,but 100% better than here.
It is time to get a little bit militant and start pushing back to get this legalised.Surely if we are going to have a "two mile vegas "soon in Co Tipp,with our archaic gambling laws,shouldnt having legal call girls[and boys] be allowed too??After all gambling and women,and booze is all what a good time is all about.

[longtipp]

I think if you ask them if they are a "ban garda" they can legaly say no. They have not been called ban gardai for a few years. They are just regular gardai now.

[hotsophie]

What rubberbootlvr says is correct make sure you ask if they are gard because entrapment is illegal in this country and the uk

[Doozer]

Best thing thing to do is stop kerb crawling
You dont know what you are getting

[kidkool]

Is eliminating street prostitution not a great thing??????! at a loss to see how this is a bad thing!!

stopping independent girls from apartments is bad for us alright but clean up the streets!!

[Ebony Amber]

Is eliminating street prostitution not a great thing??????! at a loss to see how this is a bad thing!!

stopping independent girls from apartments is bad for us alright but clean up the streets!!

I personally don't like the idea of street prostitution but by purely making it illegal isn't going to help. I'm at a loss of what to do but these ladies need to work somewhere

[damron]

No need to come to Limerick.No girls not even a dog on the streets now.

[Mioux]

The ladies don't need to 'work somewhere', what they need is better choices and options and better government support to help not have to turn to prostitution in the first place. This is a good initiative. The women are being sent to support services and the men only are getting arrested. Usually it's the other way around. Also in Ruhama you can keep working and still get help/suport from them, so why shouldn't the fines go to them, Ruhama do great work for those that need their help, do you even know what they do besides the TORL? Just because they have set up the TORL doesn't mean that the normal work they do isn't great.

Any man who uses street prostitutes is gross in my book, the majority of the women (i doubt ANYONE would do it for fun) are in poverty, have kids to feed, are drug addicts, or are being pimped out, or are in an abusive relationship and their partner is making them do it.

[rubberbootlvr]

Mioux,
I beg to differ on some cases here in Limerick,there were Rumanian girls staying in a top class hotel [By Limerick standards],where the room were knocking out at 150 euros per night.The girls were turning over about 650 euros per night on the street in Limerick.This al came out in a district court case about this where they were fined appx 150 euros each..
so sorry,I really cant buy in certain cases that these girls are poor ,starving innnocent little waifs who are being forced into this.
I'm not denying that there is a certain amount ofexplotation or forced prostitution ,Ireland Europe and world wide.But it is too broad a brush stroke to say ALL street hookers are exploited etc.

As morphus pointed out,well and good if it was to get the girls off the street,but it isnt..After all how many "brothels"[Aks crummy apartments] have been raided here,than girls been picked off the streets??
Also,would Ruhma care to explain WHY it has a remarkably large amount of religious personel in their organisation,whose predecessors were involved in running the Magdalene laundries??I suggest a google of this to see basically what sort of human rights abuse that hasnt been seen outside Stalinst Russias gulags went on in "holy catholic Ireland" in the 1920s up to the late 1980s!!Sort of like using ex SS personel to gaurd a synagouge if you ask me!
Just for a historical pointDublin in the 1920s had a bigger red light zone than London..It was called "the Monto" which was the area behind the GPO,Moore st area? Closed down by the religious bigots and Fascists that came in with DeVelaras Ireland.
We could have a brilliant tourist playground on par with Amsterdam,hadnt it been for religious intolerance here.

Also,could anyone explain to me, as abit of a thicko..How is this Swedish model supposed to work??It isnt illegal to be a prostitute,but illegal to procure the services of one??Sort of like saying you are a doctor,but you cant have any patients???

[Mioux]

well done. you blasted my argument because of one high profile, very unusual case. I never said ALL were being exploited, i said most. Even EI says not to use street escorts.

It is to get the girls off the street; the men are arrested and women are sent to support services where they are given more options and choices.

Ruhama have no religious 'personell' anymore. They have no religious agenda, but you're of course going to believe whatever you want to believe to help you sleep at night.

Yes, predecessors. Ruhama and the magdalene laundries have nothing in common. Again, do you even know what Ruhama does apart from TORL? They are saving lives, but you probably wouldn't want to know about the good they do.

I know all about Monto. I was a prostitute, after all.

The swedish model reduces the demand (puts the onus on the buyer and relieves the seller of responsiblity) which has significantly reduced trafficking (unlike in Holland where it went up 100%), and it has halved street prostitution. No demand on the streets = no street prostitution