very interesting post.. ya i understand what you mean but the funny thing is i just cant peice it all together.Originally Posted by n73
there is deception out there that i aint gonna figure out..
very interesting post.. ya i understand what you mean but the funny thing is i just cant peice it all together.
there is deception out there that i aint gonna figure out..
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I think you ( majority of you ) are picking on the wrong targets here.
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Bruno, mate, read my origional post again. I specifically asked for no names or areas so as not to be seen as picking on anybody.
Under current legislation, it's not illegal for you to visit an escort. Whether 2 genuine Independant girls or 2 or more 'Agency' girls are working for the same location, or sharing the same facilities from different apartments e.g phone answering, that can be constituted as visiting a brothel....again not illegal for a punter, but dramatically increases the chances of you being involved in a raid etc.....
There are girls on the boards advertising as Independent and currently operating with a number of 'friends'. You only have to go into to the Chatroom to see how obvious this is. This has happened before and will continue to do so but is more obvious because of profiles on the boards. There are threads about PM's asking for visits, girls asking for reviews etc...the majority of such activities are in my opinion, part of an organised effort.......Does it bother me....NO
There are girls advertising as Independent in D1, D2, D4, D7, D9, D17, D18, D24...should I go on...but are actually not...same apartments in use...girls move between areas such as D18 to D9 (or Kildare) and then depart...to be followed by new girls...
Please note I'm not for 1 minute claiming these girls are trafficked...I am stating the obvious, the activity is organised....
To answer your question, do I believe that they are Independent...NO....
As per Lucy's point, will it stop me visiting them...NO....
It is my experience that if you want to increase your chances of a good time with a lady, choosing a genuine Independent lady is always best. If you want to minimise the chances of getting into a messy situation with the Guards, visit a genuine Independant lady working alone, it's the only way.....under current legislation....
Bruno69 (12-06-11), n73 (12-06-11), Rodney69 (12-06-11), samlad (12-06-11), skywalker85 (12-06-11), The Hobbyist (12-06-11)
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I know. And I haven't named anyone. Unfortunately other posters have made it fairly obvious, including in a very amusingly subtle way, Mr. Fussy. I would like to echo his comments 100% by the way.
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It is interesting to see the various use of words like independent,agency, pimped, organised,etc
I would hazard a guess that real 'independents ' need to key into organised structure every now and again. How else it is possible to move from one incall to another around the country unless there is some sort of support system, loose or otherwise ?
I dont have a problem with the idea of 'agency ' -- I book thru'agencies regularly when I am abroad. But I like to know what I am dealing with -- I dont like people trying to fool me. I want to make my own decision, my safety and privacy comes first.
Here , I feel there is a blurring of the lines . Pimped conjures up unhappy girls, working terrible hours, doing things against their will and with some nasty piece of work behind them controlling and ripping them off. Agencies too are technically pimps but are there not some support organisations around who work in a different way to the pimps mentioned above ?
I am blue in the face saying here that what I object to is supposedly communicating with an escort when in fact I am taliking to someone completely different. Some people seem to know or think they have the inside track on this and if they do I would be obliged if they would PM me in confidence. I will then correspond with them directly by outside email.
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We will let this thread run, the problem is apparent and needs to be addressed.
It's been said time and time again, but I'll say it again (and I know it won't be the last time). We are a directory and put up profiles on behalf of escorts; we do not do anything more than that.
As it happens, E-I work with the Gardai and there have been incidents when we have received enough information to take it forward and justice has been dealt. Without concrete proof, we are not in a position to catergorise any escort as 'agency' or 'independent'. It's been noted that we should do more to make sure, but it's difficult to do so... how are supposed to know?
As a company, we are of course against pimping and trafficking and we do not condone street prostitution. When we find out that escorts are using fake pictures or are using multiple profiles (with solid proof), we are in a position to take action. Some of you may already know that when there is any information regarding possible trafficking, threats, attacks or forced sex work, Nicole, Patricia and I have contacted you and asked for the information.
As MrFussy states, it is not illegal to see escorts and if there is a serious concern regarding an escort advertising on E-I, please do contact the authorities and we will cooperate with them to ensure that justice is done. We do keep on record various forms of information that would help their investigations.
There is a stigma attached to the term 'agency' and for those escorts that do advertise as an agency, we have to remember that 1) fair play to them for being up front about it and 2) not all agency workers are slave driven and unhappy; many escorts start off as agency workers before going independent and in a lot of cases, it's the early stages of a potentially excellent escort. With such a stigma attached to this term, I can understand (to an extent) why some agency escorts might try to get away with advertising as independent. Once they are found out, it amplifies the situation for them because they have been pointed out as deceitful.
The best thing to do is discuss escorts with other experienced clients, do check photo verifications and reviews. If you turn up for a meeting and it's not the escort in the pictures, do politely decline and turn away. Do check/use the warning section.
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Ksteve, not sure about an organised structure. Independents talk to each other, normally through forums, to warn of dangerous punters, recommend locations, ask advice etc. I wouldn't call that 'organised', you have to make all your own decisions, room bookings, advertising, deciding on which punters you will see or not, pay your taxes etc. We will give each other advice, especially on how to stay safe.
Ebony Amber (12-06-11)
Agree with you 100% n73 on your original post.
Mr Fussy puts it well that the activity is definitely organised. Whether by an agency or a group of escorts themselves ( I'm not sure if there is a difference to be honest. ) it is something I will be avoiding as a punter.
From my point of view places with this amount of activity are to be avoided.
The whole issue of other people answering PMs is why I avoid Pming ladies for any other reason than making a booking. With a few exceptions
Last edited by dave1dave; 12-06-11 at 11:19.
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On the point of same apartments being in use, that doesn't necessarily mean it is organised or controlled in the agency or pimping sense.
Genuine independent escorts can work together and share apartments, as they tour around the country
Thank you all the ladies I had pleasure of meeting. Forever grateful for the memories
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