No to owo?

[bigboyjack]

Ok guys, this might cause some contraversy, but the question needs to be asked. Should advertising OWO as a favourite be banned to discourage escorts offering it and punters looking for it?? I've had a few scares in my time and it's all down to OWO and reverse oral. I love noting better than 'going down' but God only knows what I'm going down to. Let's face it, it's risky business. When I'm browsing these days I look for girls not offering OWO but soon as I ring and ask is OWO I'm told yes !! I'm not blaming the girls here. Its a cut throat business and they're only offering what the punters are looking for. I'm sure most dread the thought of it. Gone be with the days when I would give an escort an extra €50 for OWO on top of the €150 standard charge. Now most of the girls advertising for €80 for 30 mins are including it. You nearly have to pay more to find a girl not offering it!!Point is it's not safe and girls offering bareback would be banned. With the increase in STI's it's getting too risky and as a punter I want to leave an escort satisfied and in the knowledge that neither one if us has passed anything onto the other.

[sperminater]

I see you point but haveing sex without going down? That's like having a cracker without the cheese wine without a glass I'm getting old I need to use my tunge to excerise my face!! Getting pleasure with out giving pleasure! I know owo is risky but so is punting if you caught it doesent matter if you go down or not your still fecked now I do agree there is a higher risk maybe I'm just a selfish git and the hammer is going to come down on me but hay on owo just doesent do it for me sorry dude

[Morpheus]

There have been a number of threads like this lately. I have kept quiet on previous threads but feel this is getting out of hand. Banning OWO is simply being ridiculous!! There is a common misconception that seeing escorts and escorting is “safe”. There is no such thing as safe sex!! There is spectrum of safety but it is never completely safe. This goes for anyone who has sex with multiple partners, not just with escorts.

Certainly the risk associated with OWO is greater than with covered oral. But it would be misinformation to suggest that it is anywhere near to what the risk is associated with unprotected intercourse.

To start banning certain practices that go on in the privacy of a bedroom between and escort and a client is policing this to a whole new level. We might as well be like Sweden and just ban escorting all together.

It’s very simple – if you don’t want OWO – cover up. You have no right to stop other clients from getting the service or from escorts giving it. And if you want to take it to its logical conclusion than you shouldn’t do French kissing either.

There is also huge ignorance among some clients and getting a ‘scare’ is the first time their eyes are opened to fact that maybe they should be a little more educated on the subject of STI’s.

There are only two STI’s that really count – HIV and Hep B. The main modes of sexual transmission for both is unprotected sexual intercourse (vaginal or anal). While there is a possible risk of transmission by other unprotected sexual practices, it is small. There is a vaccine for Hep B – so one can get vaccinated quite easily to prevent transmission (and should do if you’re involved in this activity).

As for the others – chalmydiae, gonnorhoea, syphilis, Herpes simplex (genital herpes) – there is actually treatment for all conditions. Clearly there are implications if you have a partner. But again this is your decision to see escorts. (I am single).

Bottom line – seeing escorts or sleeping with multiple partners is dangerous. If you are involved in this then it’s up to the individual to decide on the level of precautions one takes (not for a community/ website/ or state to impose on individuals).

I made a calculated educated decision long before I ever got into this. My only option for sex is with escorts. For me FK and OWO are essential. In addition I get checked three monthly regardless of symptoms, have been vaccinated for Hep B.

I honestly think this is getting out of hand and if the OP’s suggestion is implemented, eventually this will be little more than an expensive lap dancing site.

I have no intention of simply fighting with other posters and believe everyone is entitled to one’s own opinion. But what the OP is suggesting is encroaching on my rights (and in fact the only reason I see escorts)

[JAMESCORK]

Ok... I read through a recent thread about STIs and thought to myself... golly, Im doing this for years, approx once a week, always and I mean always have received OWO and I never have had any infection whatsoever. Am I just lucky??? I have also never heard of a girl that had to cut short a visit for fear of contracting a disease. In fact if my memory serves me correctly in the aforementioned thread there were a lot of guys saying they went or were going for tests but none who had actually contracted any infection.

Any girl I have had the pleasure of meeting was impeccably clean & careful so I don’t expect any problem there. Now bearing in mind, I do realize nobody is going to come forward and volunteer that they have or had an STI but in general, how rampant is it really?..

[bigboyjack]

I know what you're saying sperminator. It's kinda like the no pleasure no pain scenario. Personally I'd much rather be eating a pussy than getting sucked. Nothing like a girl sitting on your face in the knowledge that she didn't have to perform OWO on some demanding punter an hour before

[JAMESCORK]

There have been a number of threads like this lately. I have kept quiet on previous threads but feel this is getting out of hand. Banning OWO is simply being ridiculous!! There is a common misconception that seeing escorts and escorting is “safe”. There is no such thing as safe sex!! There is spectrum of safety but it is never completely safe. This goes for anyone who has sex with multiple partners, not just with escorts.

Certainly the risk associated with OWO is greater than with covered oral. But it would be misinformation to suggest that it is anywhere near to what the risk is associated with unprotected intercourse.

To start banning certain practices that go on in the privacy of a bedroom between and escort and a client is policing this to a whole new level. We might as well be like Sweden and just ban escorting all together.

It’s very simple – if you don’t want OWO – cover up. You have no right to stop other clients from getting the service or from escorts giving it. And if you want to take it to its logical conclusion than you shouldn’t do French kissing either.

There is also huge ignorance among some clients and getting a ‘scare’ is the first time their eyes are opened to fact that maybe they should be a little more educated on the subject of STI’s.

There are only two STI’s that really count – HIV and Hep B. The main modes of sexual transmission for both is unprotected sexual intercourse (vaginal or anal). While there is a possible risk of transmission by other unprotected sexual practices, it is small. There is a vaccine for Hep B – so one can get vaccinated quite easily to prevent transmission (and should do if you’re involved in this activity).

As for the others – chalmydiae, gonnorhoea, syphilis, Herpes simplex (genital herpes) – there is actually treatment for all conditions. Clearly there are implications if you have a partner. But again this is your decision to see escorts. (I am single).

Bottom line – seeing escorts or sleeping with multiple partners is dangerous. If you are involved in this then it’s up to the individual to decide on the level of precautions one takes (not for a community/ website/ or state to impose on individuals).

I made a calculated educated decision long before I ever got into this. My only option for sex is with escorts. For me FK and OWO are essential. In addition I get checked three monthly regardless of symptoms, have been vaccinated for Hep B.

I honestly think this is getting out of hand and if the OP’s suggestion is implemented, eventually this will be little more than an expensive lap dancing site.

I have no intention of simply fighting with other posters and believe everyone is entitled to one’s own opinion. But what the OP is suggesting is encroaching on my rights (and in fact the only reason I see escorts)

What he said...

(Possibly the best post that came out of the Morph.. nice one bud...lol)

[bigboyjack]

Morpheus, sorry I'm new to posting so don't know how to attach a response to your post. I'm not encroching in your right. Fair enough what goes on between 2 people is up to them, but not when the lady is offering a service to the public. Is it ok for me to have bareback with some escort you use on a regular basis just cos it's between us and I pay her more? Granted, bareback is riskier and should be outlawed but the risk of catching something from some girl shoving 500+ dicks a year in her mouth is there!!!

[Bruno69]

The OP is not suggesting banning it. He's suggesting banning advertising it on the basis that it puts too much pressure on escorts who don't want to do it but feel they have to to get business.

Don't be naive by thinking all escorts do it and advertise it because they are unconcerned about their safety.

[iceman732]

This is an interesting topic.

In my own personal circumstances, I'm young and single. I'm aware that escorts have sex with many more partners than a normal girl which automatically increases the risk of transmitting a disease.

However, having said that I've been in a good few situations where you end up with a girl at the end of the night out. In the moment if I was to say to the girl that I didn't have a condom do you think that would stop her? IMO it's highly unlikely as you're both in the moment, drunk and want a ride. If she's willing to have unprotected sex with me then how many other partners has she had it with?

I always make sure I have a condom as I wouldn't risk unprotected sex.

Also in this situation what are the chances that she's going to hop in the shower and make sure she's clean before sex? Zero.

When you meet an escort, she's (generally) impeccably clean and certainly any escort I've ever been with is very careful to make sure that everything is done as safely as possible. I'm also aware that most escorts get checked out on a very regular basis.

Personally I feel that if you stick to well known escorts, that (I imagine) are required to take the same level of risks as certain escorts in order to make ends meat.

[sperminater]

Look I'm sorry but if I don't see owo I don't make the appointment maybe the ladies who have taken it off there profile have seen a drop in calls and I suppose that put pressure to advertise owo but i have found that when I see a new girl 9 out of 10 will ask me if I want it covered so that's a good sign and as morphious has said in his long explanation it's a low risk but you never know guys risk is risk and I think that's enough said on the subject.