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    Hmmmm probably i should ask them where i can do this such amont of money in week?
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    what exactly is the definition of traffiked here? im familiar with the horror story type, but is there a more common type where girls are enticed to work in the sex industry here, have accom and advertising set up for them and then they pay for that as they go along? while not being pimped they are qorking with some people who operate outside the law by providing this for them. is that what is meant by traffiked now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhoywonder View Post
    what exactly is the definition of traffiked here? im familiar with the horror story type, but is there a more common type where girls are enticed to work in the sex industry here, have accom and advertising set up for them and then they pay for that as they go along? while not being pimped they are qorking with some people who operate outside the law by providing this for them. is that what is meant by traffiked now?
    According to general consensus within the escort community it's a lady that has been caught working in a brothel and holds her hands up saying she was trafficked to get out of being prosecuted.. Not saying actual trafficking doesn't happen but it's all too easy to say you were trafficked to move from the criminal to the victim pile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anon361 View Post
    According to general consensus within the escort community it's a lady that has been caught working in a brothel and holds her hands up saying she was trafficked to get out of being prosecuted.. Not saying actual trafficking doesn't happen but it's all too easy to say you were trafficked to move from the criminal to the victim pile.
    The definition of trafficking is that once another person has contributed to the lady getting there, let it be by paying for her flight
    or her accomodation etc, even if the lady if fully aware and compliant this is still in the strict sense of the word trafficking.
    I think this is where the confusion arises as we view trafficking as where the lady is maybe mislead or coerced or in extreme cases
    basically kidnapped and made work. The truth is that a lady could come here in full knowledge and be totally happy with what
    she is about to do but once she recieves assistance she statistically has been trafficked.
    This is why the definition of trafficking is such a bone of contention between pro and anti escorting organisations as depending on
    how u define it u can totally distort statastics
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    but there seems to be a network of houses for women to work out of. ive been to some apartments a good few times in galway. and the ones in prospect hill/bohermore i wouldnt go near as everyone must know what goes on there now. i still view these girls as independents, but because they deal with people who own this accom network some people think they are pimped.
    am i right or wrong? or naive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ber View Post
    The definition of trafficking is that once another person has contributed to the lady getting there, let it be by paying for her flight
    or her accomodation etc, even if the lady if fully aware and compliant this is still in the strict sense of the word trafficking.
    I think this is where the confusion arises as we view trafficking as where the lady is maybe mislead or coerced or in extreme cases
    basically kidnapped and made work. The truth is that a lady could come here in full knowledge and be totally happy with what
    she is about to do but once she recieves assistance she statistically has been trafficked.
    This is why the definition of trafficking is such a bone of contention between pro and anti escorting organisations as depending on
    how u define it u can totally distort statastics
    thats that straight. thanks
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    just listened to the fionn davenport interview. he just gave yer wan a podium to say whatever the fuck she wanted to. she probably provided him with a list of questions to ask!! ffs
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    bhoywonder, you made a very interesting point there, when you mention that the escorts in galway tend to use the same apartments so there must be some network organising this, i never thought of that, so does this mean the girls are been organised by someone

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    Isn't it amazing? We are all in the sex industry on this site , escorts and clients.

    Yet we still don't really know what is going on.

    Everything we post about definition and level of so-called trafficking is speculation and conjecture.

    Surely there is enough expertise and knowledge amongst the escorting community here to lay the cards on the table and tell it like it is. The more talk about multiple grey definitions of what is not 100% independent, the more suspicious I get that there is genuinely a murky nasty side to our business here that we could help to eradicate if we had more truthful information to work with.
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    Podcast of sex trafficking on Davenport on Newstalk

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