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Exactly yes. You are entirely right. The very problem with the TOTRL campaign is that it does not give centre stage to the most informed voice in this issue: the escorts who are actively working in Ireland. The reason they do not to have the input of active escorts is that it does not suit their objectives.Originally Posted by Mioux
Trafficking is abhorrent and sickening. We on the TOTBL side need to take the lead in the anti-trafficking campaign, which is what is really needed here.
With regards to trafficking I dont know too much on the subject, as such I am always particularly interested in an escort's opinion over others. I figure they are bound to have a better idea.
Mioux (29-04-11)
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Of course it is the escorts that should inform us all on this, inform the entire debate as they are the only ones who really know - not these moral guardians who are once again telling us what to think & how we may live.
Mioux (29-04-11)
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Actually the customer is just as entitled to an opinion as the supplier if not more
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'..if not more'....
God loves a trier
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and you do try, bless you
I find myself agreeing with Mioux here but escorts seem to be remaining silent in this thread... ultimately, they have to lead the argument in this debate or it will just be seen as a bunch of horny men trying to keep things the way they are.
Mioux (30-04-11)
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Can I just remind you of Mioux's statement/point...
"i kind of think the only people entitled to an opinion on this are escorts and former escorts, not clients."
This is not the late late show or a radio interview. It's a thread on the TOTBL forum, which was set up for all EI contributors to debate and rally against a campaign to change the current legislation, to prosecute clients ( that's me and a lot of you) for paying for sex, something that has no impact on retired escorts.
My point (and please take the time to read it if you are going to reply to this) never suggested that clients decide how the industry is run, but that if both TOBL and TORL sat down and talked, both sides might take a less blinkered view of each other and not necessarily just keep the status quo but have a healthier debate on how to deal with trafficking.
However, Mioux's opinion is that I ( clients in general, not me personally I accept) am not entitled to an opinion, and she's welcome to share that opinion on this thread.
Last edited by Bruno69; 30-04-11 at 08:00.
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I think the problem is that the TORL group are not interested in the other side of the story. They are not in the least bit interested in hearing from escorts. I know that an escort from this forum tried emailing them but got absolutely stone walled. The TORL are incapable of believing that any woman can actually choose of her own free will to be an escort. To them trafficking and escorting are one and the same thing. Given that the religious order that backs is responsible for serious abuses of women in the past (Magdalene sisters) - i'm not surprised at their stance.
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Get both sides of Vincent Brown and see what happens.
Get Mick Wallace on boards too, Im sure he would be interested lol
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