Indies Vs Pimped...

[monster_monster]

After reading quite a few (not all) the posts here I'd just like to add that in my opinion, there are only two types of girls that escort, those that choose to and those that have it chosen for them. Any girl that chooses to be independent or work for an agency is fine by me. Any girl that has this option forced upon them (trafficking, PIMP, drug dealer, this list is almost endless) needs the help of punters that spot it to inform the Guards, as people that make money from the abuse of others is just wrong and deserves to be punished for it.

[Bruno69]

Ok, I think we have played this one to conclusion....

I'm getting the distinct idea that this is not a suitable discussion for any of the ladies to get involved in, for their own well being.

I’m out…

Wimp!

I agree with JJ that people should be very careful of rumours and direct speculation.

But punters are equally entitled to ask questions on this site and express opinions.

I think you'll find that the guys taking an interest in this are primarily interested in girls safety.

And this might end today but it's going to keep bouncing back until some more genuine light is shed on this industry which we all support here.

Any room in that sandpit James for my head too?

[aml]

I was actually going to start a thread that has some realation to this.I was reading an article today where a foreign national was arrested recently in connection with a hungarion crime gang running a prostitution racket in the south of ireland.According to the article their base of operations is in the north of ireland and they have trafficked 70 women into the country form hungaryto be in the sex trade.There will be arrests in the coming days in all the major towns and cities in the coming days so guys and gals stay safe until this blows over.

[mellors]

And beside the phone number,a lot of times we travel alone,we go out shopping alone,we never know who we are opening the door for.You guys are waiting for opinions,it might be fun to listen and spread rumors,because you are not exposed in any way,but for some of us,that have to take care of themselves this is not so much fun.

I think that sums it up nicely.Certainly not the easiest of jobs which ever way you look at it.

[dave1dave]

No, I have. As Jessica points out, some of us are vulnerable, and to be frank, you guys are anonymous usernames. My phone number is on my profile.

And beside the phone number,a lot of times we travel alone,we go out shopping alone,we never know who we are opening the door for.You guys are waiting for opinions,it might be fun to listen and spread rumors,because you are not exposed in any way,but for some of us,that have to take care of themselves this is not so much fun.

I must say that yes it is very easy for us as anonymous names to forget these things.
As for rumors, I have found that most rumors are just that. Rumors, started by someone with an axe to grind or trying to ruin someones reputation for personal gain. Rumors are very easy to start. People need to remember this.

[Quarterpoundher]

Little birdies are best left to chirp in the trees, nice to listen to but not worth trying to decipher a lot of the time and tbh those that talk with you about others in a negative light will talk about you likewise so think on about who you share these little nest side chats with.

[ksteve]

As for ksteve's point about privacy of pm conversations, I don't believe for a second that there is an issue with some pimp managing pm's. Only a very few girls use this medium to attract business here and when someone does it a lot, we all get excited and they in turn get good business from it. So lets say the girl shares a flat with another, is having a busy day, but would like to keep the pm campaign going strong because she's generating a lot of interest through it. She might say to her flat mate, would you mind answering a few of these for me while I'm busy for the next hour. A bit naughty certainly, but not the end of the world IMHO. They are using pm as a prospecting tool, and having some genuine fun sexy banter along the way, but not trying to find a boyfriend. It's business! And if any ladies reading this do that, it's not worth it, you'll get caught out and generate more fuss than it's worth.

[QUOTE]

The whole idea of private messaging for me is the knowledge that I communicate privately and only with that chosen escort or poster. Thru pm , I may share very personal information with that escort about me, opinions, a whole range of things-- things that I might not say on the public boards. I try to build a relationship of confidence with that person if possible and I like to rely on it. I completely and utterly disagree with the view that my private communications should be played with or left open in anyway to scrutiny by a flat mate , friend, pimp, other escort or whatever . If the escort has to attend a booking-- no problem. guys understand that fully and the 'banter ' can re-continue when she is free again.
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I'm not disagreeing with you. I don't think this is rife. In fact I'm only aware of it one case that affected me. I discussed it privately with the individual concerned and had a very enjoyable time with that individual again. But then I have an innate ability to move on.

Yes you are. I do not agree with your laissez faire approach to this. In addition, my comments are also forward looking. This is how I want to be treated in the future.

And beside the phone number,a lot of times we travel alone,we go out shopping alone,we never know who we are opening the door for.You guys are waiting for opinions,it might be fun to listen and spread rumors,because you are not exposed in any way,but for some of us,that have to take care of themselves this is not so much fun.

I dont know you at all but it seems your views are highly respected here and I can well understand that. Your comments quite clearly show why clients, who want to book and to deal with independent escorts and to comminicate with them privately, should be allowed to do so with confidence.


P.S It would also be nice not to create an excuse for this type of thread to be shut down . It is more interesting than discussions on ',have I tasted my own cum' and such !

[mellors]

I,m meant to be working so haven't read all the threads.
I agree at least it's an interesting discussion (at least from a clients point of view). Obviously the internet and forums like this allow whispers, half truths, lies, truth and rumour to spread. I would hate to think that I had visited an escort who was doing this against her will. The problem is I might hear a rumour here or gossip there, but the truth is I can't know for sure in some cases unless I stick to the escorts I'm confident are truly independent.

[lfccork]

What aml has said there about the crime gang is a bit of an eye opener,as all the punters in cork are well aware of an agency advertising indies in the city with the majority hungarian.There were girls busted last week for running a so called brothel on washington street,how this place has not been busted is beyond me but maybe moves are afoot now.