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    How can we be sure that none of these women are trafficked into escorting. We see again on the news that 2 women have been rescued from Belfast brothels. Its hard to know how 'Independent' they really are. Trafficked into this business would amount to total misery for the victims, and I for one would not want to add to their misery.

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    Ok.

    Have you seen foreign doctors working? How do you know they aren't trafficked into this country by some foreign criminal gang and living miserable lives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicegirlsarenice View Post
    Ok.

    Have you seen foreign doctors working? How do you know they aren't trafficked into this country by some foreign criminal gang and living miserable lives?
    They would not be able to register and therefore, work in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malefantasy View Post
    They would not be able to register and therefore, work in this country.
    Why not? Maybe they got their MDs in the usual way, and were promised a much better life abroad. When they got here, they find the life is actually far different to what they thought, but they're stuck and can't escape their situation. Every day the clients come, are abusive and annoying and brash, and they hate their situation. They feel they are forced to do it to help feed their family or because they are in debt. It's the same type of scenario. Maybe there are a small few percentage of doctors out there working like that. I think that if you have a job at all, especially a lucrative one like escorting, and you don't mind doing it, you're lucky.

    Loads of large corperations exploit people and pay them very little, for a lot harder work. They push their workers to work as much as they can, 39 hours a week. Escorting doesn't have a central corperation or cut-throat business system, it's not like drugs in this way.

    I think that you "for one" should be a lot more interested in where the shoes on your feet are coming from, whether they were of child labour etc., than contradicting the girls and flying in the face of what an escort says. The same with what food you eat, etc. If you want to do good things in the world, as Hippocrites said "first do no harm". Escorts hate people trying to take away their livelihood, and hate being denigrated and harassed by people such as the hateful anti-woman corperation known as "Ruhama".

    Do you not think it's awfully arrogant of you to contradict what the escorts themselves are saying like that and say that you know better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicegirlsarenice View Post
    Why not? Maybe they got their MDs in the usual way, and were promised a much better life abroad. When they got here, they find the life is actually far different to what they thought, but they're stuck and can't escape their situation. Every day the clients come, are abusive and annoying and brash, and they hate their situation. They feel they are forced to do it to help feed their family or because they are in debt. It's the same type of scenario. Maybe there are a small few percentage of doctors out there working like that. I think that if you have a job at all, especially a lucrative one like escorting, and you don't mind doing it, you're lucky.

    Loads of large corperations exploit people and pay them very little, for a lot harder work. They push their workers to work as much as they can, 39 hours a week. Escorting doesn't have a central corperation or cut-throat business system, it's not like drugs in this way.

    I think that you "for one" should be a lot more interested in where the shoes on your feet are coming from, whether they were of child labour etc., than contradicting the girls and flying in the face of what an escort says. The same with what food you eat, etc. If you want to do good things in the world, as Hippocrites said "first do no harm". Escorts hate people trying to take away their livelihood, and hate being denigrated and harassed by people such as the hateful anti-woman corperation known as "Ruhama".

    Do you not think it's awfully arrogant of you to contradict what the escorts themselves are saying like that and say that you know better?
    Ahem Nicegirls......the op is asking how he can possibly know or somehow satisfy himself that an escort he intends to visit has not been trafficked here and forced to do this work against her will........it has nothing whatsoever in common with doctors who arrive here on Ryanair, ALT, BA, British Midlands or other flights, who work very long hours and then get stuck in vehicular traffick jams on their way home. It also has nothing to do with the general immigrant population, the pharmaceutical industry, agriculture including farmyard livestock and tillage crops, politics, cryogenics, renaissance art or the Free Presbyterian Church in Ireland.

    It's all about OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlos marvado View Post
    Ahem Nicegirls......the op is asking how he can possibly know or somehow satisfy himself that an escort he intends to visit has not been trafficked here and forced to do this work against her will........it has nothing whatsoever in common with doctors who arrive here on Ryanair, ALT, BA, British Midlands or other flights, who work very long hours and then get stuck in vehicular traffick jams on their way home. It also has nothing to do with the general immigrant population, the pharmaceutical industry, agriculture including farmyard livestock and tillage crops, politics, cryogenics, renaissance art or the Free Presbyterian Church in Ireland.

    It's all about OK
    And there is a lot in common between them Carlos. Some people put "escorting" in a different box to everything else, and it's usually the girls who suffer from this. Escorting is a legitimate job, just like any other.

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    There is only one way to be absolutely 100% sure that you are not contributing to the trafficking of sex slaves........stop seeing escorts. But then if you wanted to be that certain that you were not contributing in a negative way to anyone else on the planet, you would stop burning fossil fuels, driving non-electric cars, purchasing items of clothing/footware and anything else that is made in third world sweatshops etc. Everything you did in your life, no matter how small would be prededed by a moral decision making process.

    As regards escorts, there are indicators that they are fully independent: those that have posting profiles and contribute on the boards, those that have freedom of movement e.g. will do outcalls if requested, those who when you talk to them on the phone can tell you exacly what they do and dont do, and dont have absolutely everything listed on their profile, and those who when you get to them, look like their photographs, sound like the person you spoke to on the phone and have a sufficient command of the English language to lead an independent life here. Some of the profile introductions are also a good indication......if it's written in very good English, yet the escort has little or no English, or when you book one escort and you end up being offered the companionship of a completely different one when you arrive, this may indicate a certain degree of organisation, but this of itself would not necessarily mean they had been trafficked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlos marvado View Post
    There is only one way to be absolutely 100% sure that you are not contributing to the trafficking of sex slaves........stop seeing escorts. But then if you wanted to be that certain that you were not contributing in a negative way to anyone else on the planet, you would stop burning fossil fuels, driving non-electric cars, purchasing items of clothing/footware and anything else that is made in third world sweatshops etc. Everything you did in your life, no matter how small would be prededed by a moral decision making process.

    As regards escorts, there are indicators that they are fully independent: those that have posting profiles and contribute on the boards, those that have freedom of movement e.g. will do outcalls if requested, those who when you talk to them on the phone can tell you exacly what they do and dont do, and dont have absolutely everything listed on their profile, and those who when you get to them, look like their photographs, sound like the person you spoke to on the phone and have a sufficient command of the English language to lead an independent life here. Some of the profile introductions are also a good indication......if it's written in very good English, yet the escort has little or no English, or when you book one escort and you end up being offered the companionship of a completely different one when you arrive, this may indicate a certain degree of organisation, but this of itself would not necessarily mean they had been trafficked.
    Google number before booking, get links to more then one other, walk away. Get one link be very wary. best way is if number is 087 1234567 then try 871234567, and all other combinations, you will get no results or pages depending on how you enter it.

    Use Yahoo to do text search on intro (yahoo for text - Google for numerals is best) get returns for umpteen other escort sites around the world or others on here from checking the entire intro then be careful as she did not write it and you are not getting a sense of her but of whoever wrote it originally.

    Do the same with a small part of intro, gets full match on first returns, be wary, avoid including names as they will change those but keep rest of a copied intro.

    Check dates on pics on profiles, if 4 years old then add 4 years to what you can expect as that's how long the pics have been unchanged.

    Do a tin eye search on pics, get a hit, walk away (you will need to save pics to folder now as tin eye don't allow live upload via url link anymore but upload from folder no problem)

    If you see a colored block banner on a pic, walk away, they have been lifted from elsewhere and the watermark is being obscured.

    Check thumb on main page with main pics on profiles, be amazed how dense fakers are.

    Pics cropped in any way suspect, be wary.

    Pic report, walk away

    non verified pics and/or no reviews walk away.

    There are lots of things to increase you chances of not being taken for a fool, a dodgy escort would find me a very tough proposition to fool, I have many more such tips as above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quarterpoundher View Post
    There are lots of things to increase you chances of not being taken for a fool, a dodgy escort would find me a very tough proposition to fool, I have many more such tips as above.
    Qph, by the time you decided to meet an escort you would have written a full dossier on her, have a few chapters of her biography on the pc, know the make-up she uses, the food she eats, deoderants, detergents, number of clients per day and alcohol consumption from scientifically analysing what she puts out in the refuse. Are you sure you have never worked for an intelligence agency?

    Ladies and gentlemen, there is only one way to beat QPH.......the green way, recycle absolutely everything (except the condoms and wetwipes).
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    Quote Originally Posted by malefantasy View Post
    How can we be sure that none of these women are trafficked into escorting. We see again on the news that 2 women have been rescued from Belfast brothels. Its hard to know how 'Independent' they really are. Trafficked into this business would amount to total misery for the victims, and I for one would not want to add to their misery.
    i know what you mean. i was following a coach yesterday,
    girls at the rear window making gestures that i didn't understand.

    later in the day i was following a wine coloured van-i just said
    "that van could be/probably is carrying drugs"

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