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    How can we be sure that none of these women are trafficked into escorting. We see again on the news that 2 women have been rescued from Belfast brothels. Its hard to know how 'Independent' they really are. Trafficked into this business would amount to total misery for the victims, and I for one would not want to add to their misery.

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    Ok.

    Have you seen foreign doctors working? How do you know they aren't trafficked into this country by some foreign criminal gang and living miserable lives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by malefantasy View Post
    How can we be sure that none of these women are trafficked into escorting. We see again on the news that 2 women have been rescued from Belfast brothels. Its hard to know how 'Independent' they really are. Trafficked into this business would amount to total misery for the victims, and I for one would not want to add to their misery.
    i know what you mean. i was following a coach yesterday,
    girls at the rear window making gestures that i didn't understand.

    later in the day i was following a wine coloured van-i just said
    "that van could be/probably is carrying drugs"

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    Thatís remarkable you donít want to ad to their misery. The thing is, if you suspect someone is working against their wish, you should call the guards immediately.

    But keep in mind hun that most escorts and every escort I heard off is working out of her free will. Even the ones pretending to be independent, they still agreed to work for those agencies they are working, for whatever reasons they think itís appropriate.

    Some of the things you hear in the papers are either exaggerated, either the girls caught are afraid to go to their families and tell them they decided to be escorts, so itís easier to play the victim card and say someone forced you to do it.

    But if you think about Ö how can you force someone to do escorting these days? Even if god forbid, some girls would be indeed forced, they would still receive clients. Most clients are nice human beings who would not take advantage of an abused soul and will ring the guards as soon as they can. Even if the clients donít realise the girls are scared, I am pretty sure someone forced to do escorting will eventually beg for help such a client. With or without knowing English, anybody can let you know they are desperate.

    So yes, well done for saying you will not ad to those girls misery. But please remember that most girls are happy to be escorting and we do that because thatís the path we have chosen.
    Available for outcalls and very rarely for an ocassional weekend tour, watch my profile when I advertise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicegirlsarenice View Post
    Ok.

    Have you seen foreign doctors working? How do you know they aren't trafficked into this country by some foreign criminal gang and living miserable lives?
    They would not be able to register and therefore, work in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malefantasy View Post
    They would not be able to register and therefore, work in this country.
    Why not? Maybe they got their MDs in the usual way, and were promised a much better life abroad. When they got here, they find the life is actually far different to what they thought, but they're stuck and can't escape their situation. Every day the clients come, are abusive and annoying and brash, and they hate their situation. They feel they are forced to do it to help feed their family or because they are in debt. It's the same type of scenario. Maybe there are a small few percentage of doctors out there working like that. I think that if you have a job at all, especially a lucrative one like escorting, and you don't mind doing it, you're lucky.

    Loads of large corperations exploit people and pay them very little, for a lot harder work. They push their workers to work as much as they can, 39 hours a week. Escorting doesn't have a central corperation or cut-throat business system, it's not like drugs in this way.

    I think that you "for one" should be a lot more interested in where the shoes on your feet are coming from, whether they were of child labour etc., than contradicting the girls and flying in the face of what an escort says. The same with what food you eat, etc. If you want to do good things in the world, as Hippocrites said "first do no harm". Escorts hate people trying to take away their livelihood, and hate being denigrated and harassed by people such as the hateful anti-woman corperation known as "Ruhama".

    Do you not think it's awfully arrogant of you to contradict what the escorts themselves are saying like that and say that you know better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by malefantasy View Post
    How can we be sure that none of these women are trafficked into escorting. We see again on the news that 2 women have been rescued from Belfast brothels. Its hard to know how 'Independent' they really are. Trafficked into this business would amount to total misery for the victims, and I for one would not want to add to their misery.
    When was this in the news??? Was this today?
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    There is only one way to be absolutely 100% sure that you are not contributing to the trafficking of sex slaves........stop seeing escorts. But then if you wanted to be that certain that you were not contributing in a negative way to anyone else on the planet, you would stop burning fossil fuels, driving non-electric cars, purchasing items of clothing/footware and anything else that is made in third world sweatshops etc. Everything you did in your life, no matter how small would be prededed by a moral decision making process.

    As regards escorts, there are indicators that they are fully independent: those that have posting profiles and contribute on the boards, those that have freedom of movement e.g. will do outcalls if requested, those who when you talk to them on the phone can tell you exacly what they do and dont do, and dont have absolutely everything listed on their profile, and those who when you get to them, look like their photographs, sound like the person you spoke to on the phone and have a sufficient command of the English language to lead an independent life here. Some of the profile introductions are also a good indication......if it's written in very good English, yet the escort has little or no English, or when you book one escort and you end up being offered the companionship of a completely different one when you arrive, this may indicate a certain degree of organisation, but this of itself would not necessarily mean they had been trafficked.

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    I see that you only registered in March this year. I've said it before so I'll say it again:

    Independents will:

    a) Answer their own phone
    b) Plan their own tours & working hours
    c) Most independents dont work 24 hours
    d) Genuine photos, genuine reviews
    e) Will not be working from an apartment with several other girls.

    If you suspect a girl is being trafficked, as said by Amy Alison, leave, ring the guards. Most independents are indeed independents, I've yet to meet a girl who is trafficked. I know some girls are, I've just never ever met a trafficked girl, nor have any of my other escort friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlos marvado View Post
    There is only one way to be absolutely 100% sure that you are not contributing to the trafficking of sex slaves........stop seeing escorts. But then if you wanted to be that certain that you were not contributing in a negative way to anyone else on the planet, you would stop burning fossil fuels, driving non-electric cars, purchasing items of clothing/footware and anything else that is made in third world sweatshops etc. Everything you did in your life, no matter how small would be prededed by a moral decision making process.

    As regards escorts, there are indicators that they are fully independent: those that have posting profiles and contribute on the boards, those that have freedom of movement e.g. will do outcalls if requested, those who when you talk to them on the phone can tell you exacly what they do and dont do, and dont have absolutely everything listed on their profile, and those who when you get to them, look like their photographs, sound like the person you spoke to on the phone and have a sufficient command of the English language to lead an independent life here. Some of the profile introductions are also a good indication......if it's written in very good English, yet the escort has little or no English, or when you book one escort and you end up being offered the companionship of a completely different one when you arrive, this may indicate a certain degree of organisation, but this of itself would not necessarily mean they had been trafficked.
    Google number before booking, get links to more then one other, walk away. Get one link be very wary. best way is if number is 087 1234567 then try 871234567, and all other combinations, you will get no results or pages depending on how you enter it.

    Use Yahoo to do text search on intro (yahoo for text - Google for numerals is best) get returns for umpteen other escort sites around the world or others on here from checking the entire intro then be careful as she did not write it and you are not getting a sense of her but of whoever wrote it originally.

    Do the same with a small part of intro, gets full match on first returns, be wary, avoid including names as they will change those but keep rest of a copied intro.

    Check dates on pics on profiles, if 4 years old then add 4 years to what you can expect as that's how long the pics have been unchanged.

    Do a tin eye search on pics, get a hit, walk away (you will need to save pics to folder now as tin eye don't allow live upload via url link anymore but upload from folder no problem)

    If you see a colored block banner on a pic, walk away, they have been lifted from elsewhere and the watermark is being obscured.

    Check thumb on main page with main pics on profiles, be amazed how dense fakers are.

    Pics cropped in any way suspect, be wary.

    Pic report, walk away

    non verified pics and/or no reviews walk away.

    There are lots of things to increase you chances of not being taken for a fool, a dodgy escort would find me a very tough proposition to fool, I have many more such tips as above.
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