References

[diver]

This is an interesting thread which should be kept going. I have a difficulty with references. I like to find a girl that I get on with and stay with her. I find it more rewarding to develop a friendship with a girl rather than trying to see many different girls. The difficulty is that girls can get possessive which I find a total turn off. I get enough of that elsewhere.
I am faced with having to find a new girl now which I hate having to do on account of the number of horrors waiting out there- hence my fixation elsewhere with the review system. Anyway, a reference from my current girl is not going to happen and asking will only risk personal injury.
It is a phenomenon that I have found with escorts that you can talk about the wife with no bother but any reference to another escort or girlfriend will get a hostile reaction.???
I digress. The point, or rather query that I want to put forward is can this website be used as a reference? As I understand it my imput here could be traced back to this computer like with the perverts on the kiddie porn sites. Could this be used to give girls a level of comfort and protection?

[Magicman]

The day that an escort is PAYING me I will feel it is my duty to provide references.

Meanwhile I am paying them.

If they feel that their safety is compromised by the lack of reference then they should find a more reassuring line of work.

We, punters, feel that before we hand over OUR MONEY, we would like some assurances also. We also feel ENTITLED to some assurances.

How do some of these "I want a reference" escorts react?

They refuse to allow us to review their services.

I would be surprised if the number of bad clients exceded the number of escorts with................. fake reviews, fake pics, poor service, and other dishonest advertising. So girls wake up..........forget about references.................................................t was all just a dream.

Magicman

[Alina1980]

My name is Alina,i am escort and really i like very much to fuck and to play and this is true,come and u see.

[bigpaws]

I have to say you both make excellent points Magicman and Alina ................ I do feel however that Magicman's point is much more relevant to the thread, sorry Alina!! ;-)

Paws

[Alyssa Jenkins]

Diver ofcourse you being a regular contributor would be a reference that is what i mean there are various ways that one can obtain clarity on whom you are meeting...Big paws just to clear up with you no i never said i would eliminate danger completely by the reference and chatting system but at least itn a step taken toward safety...I wish I could explain to you all the paranoia and stuff involved with the touring over the past times i have been coming to ireland things have changed drastically whether it is organised or one off crimes i have no idea but recently it has reached an all time terrible state....While i was on tour this time my phone rang so many times i lost count and it was rather obvious some calls just wanted to find out where i was etc etc...A close friend of mine who was touring in fact even had a problem with a hotle as some personb who rang her got in touch with them and helpfully provided them with a link to her picture as to who she was then she was evicted so its all of these kinds of scenarios one has to deal with...I havent a clue why it has escalated in ireland currently its sad really...What it does then is an honest escort who is as real as her pictures and is really providing what she says and who is allowing reviews etc etc becomes afraid and its not nice meeting some one when you feel uncomfortable as the meeting will not go as planned....So i am just trying to show you all the flip side of the coin...I am sorry that some of you have suffered with false escorts etc etc all i can say is then if we are all after the same thing an enjoyable time then certainly we can cooperate with each other obviously not to the extent of personal info being divulged that can later be used in a disrespctful manner but just a bit of banter and some rather harmless questions...As diver points out then when chatting on the phone you as the client can also establish would i enjoy this persons company as basically from the phone we can reach a fairly decent impression...So its a win win situation for us all no more time wasting travelling somewhere to discover that the person isnt up to standard and no more time wasting waiting for someone who doesnt arrive its all just a little bit but every little helps......Paws i respect the fat that you have a peronal life and you wouldnt like leaks but if you sent me a pm to make an appointment its rather unlikly your other half would even see that as i would be reassured that you are a real individual just as you are assured from my pictures and reviews that i am who i say i am......I hope this helps a little xxxx

[Magicman]

Perhaps, Alyssa, we may be approaching the day when all the business side of escorting might be conducted on the internet besides just the marketing.

Will we see where emails are the only acceptable forms of bookings and no mobile numbers will be advertised just exchanged in emails?

That type of security would be preferable to providing other information, such as which other escorts we visited.
Such questions are out of order as when I have paid and had my service I don't wish to discuss it with anyone else.
Such questions could also be used by criminal "pimps" who might encourage a punter to say where the girl, whose number he is giving as a "reference", is located

You may, by this action of questioning punters about previous escorts, be unwittingly putting them at risk of violent crime.

Once the culture of punters giving out girls phone numbers is established then it will be easy to establish that their location should be also given as a matter of reference. Who uses this information will be beyond the control of the punter as indeed will his own information about himself.

So refering to my first paragraph.......................maybe using emails will be a benefit to everyone. Its a simple matter to set up a secret hotmail address so spouses or girlfriends will be unaware.

Then the next problem will be.......................... "but she never answers her emails"

Looking forward to arranging a meeting with you sometime.........via email.

Cheers
Magicman

[Alyssa Jenkins]

Yes magic man i agree with what it is you are saying and very much encourage a pm or email booking system this tends to work fine in london and alot of people prefer it due to its personal touches as you have mentioned...I look forward to meeting you in the future alyssaxxxxx

[Cairrean]

I myself have been working this way for over 1 year now … and it works very well for me .. I tour only a few times a year and this system helps me see new clients whom other wise wouldn’t get a booking. Regulars come 1st for me.

I only no of 10 to 15 escorts whom are happy to refer clients whom they have met before with the clients consent , I also no that must don’t strictly use this system themselves .. Its just a method they use if they are unsure of an inquirer . this is a small minority .. So if your worried about all escorts adopting this way of working there is no need. There are 100.s of girls who wouldn’t even consider this system.

Some girls come to Ireland to work and take as many clients as they can in 1 tour the more the better, so reference wouldn’t really work for them as waiting on replies can take up 2 much time.

Others like myself prefer things to be more organised and take pre bookings be4 arrival and meet only 1 - 4 clients in 1 day depending on the length of time a client wishes to book. I’m happy to take deposits or references from new clients …if this doesn’t suit them , im sorry but its how I work.
I’ve never met any nasty clients yet!! ( fingers crossed)

No one has the right to tell any independent escort how to work
Independence = freedom from the control, influence, or the like, of others.

Cairrean xxx

[diver]

I have a difficulty in making bookings. I tend to get "windows of opportunity" where I can create some time around meetings in the city. Typically, I am looking in the morning to see someone in the afternoon. I can see a problem unless I can get "preapproved". I could pm girls who interest me and ask them to add my name and phone number to their client database. How long do girls hold name/numbers for? It is months since I met any of the touring girls in the list of referees