The Swedish Model Versus The UK Model

[warmcome]

And those of us who are shagging the sex workers, although I doubt the public has a higher opinion of us than of those who are profiting from you.

things have changed. i've read some mainstream opinion on other forums.
the public are undecided as to the true picture. more neautral than might be expected.

[El Gordo]

It doesn't have to be an exclusive union

Fancy helping with a charter?

Depends. Will mojitos be served at the meeting?

[Lucy Chambers]

Depends. Will mojitos be served at the meeting?

Yes, with nibbles

[Violette]

I wasn't being flippant. I am quite serious. Because as you say, we aren't from here and won't suffer the way a local lady would.

[ber]

I think a huge difference exists between here and UK and that is the issue regarding who are Independent and who are
agencies, agencies advertise as agencies in UK ,they all advertise as Independents in Ireland.Hundreds of men go everday
to visit an escort and leave convinced that they have seen an Independent escort, when in actual fact they have not.
Its fine to say only see Independent Ladies how do u really know,? we all know the high profile ladies who are visible on
the boards etc thats no problem. Move on now to the next layer underneath that, girls that dont post have a few reviews
can anybody here say with complete certainty who are independent and who are not. u go to the apt u hear other people
there most guys will assume or try convince themselves that its two Independent ladies working together.
So please dont assume that its easy to know if ure seeing Independents or not because while some of the Agencies are
very obvious some are not so, they change location frequently, dont use too many girls in apt at one time. If u really
study the profiles over time u will pick up on it ,but how many guys will do that? Not many i venture most just take a
few numbers and take the fact she is Advertised as independent at face value. So there are alot of issues here not cut
and dried atall

[Lucy Chambers]

I wasn't being flippant. I am quite serious. Because as you say, we aren't from here and won't suffer the way a local lady would.

Okie dokie. I am going to do a bit more research into what we need to do but for now here is an example press release of quite a successful collective that are surprisingly effective at lobbying, they were heavily involved in the Clare Finch Case.

English Collective of Prostitutes


Is this something clients would support?

[Violette]

The Irish Sex Workers Union-
It would be open to all who are in support of Sex Workers, so punters, friends, and sex workers current and retired a like, it is open to all nationalities. And we will have the charter written in English and Irish. We, will need a website, logo, and mission statement. El Gordo- would make an excellent secretary. All in favor? Say Aye.

[Lucy Chambers]

I think a huge difference exists between here and UK and that is the issue regarding who are Independent and who are
agencies, agencies advertise as agencies in UK ,they all advertise as Independents in Ireland.Hundreds of men go everday
to visit an escort and leave convinced that they have seen an Independent escort, when in actual fact they have not.
Its fine to say only see Independent Ladies how do u really know,? we all know the high profile ladies who are visible on
the boards etc thats no problem. Move on now to the next layer underneath that, girls that dont post have a few reviews
can anybody here say with complete certainty who are independent and who are not. u go to the apt u hear other people
there most guys will assume or try convince themselves that its two Independent ladies working together.
So please dont assume that its easy to know if ure seeing Independents or not because while some of the Agencies are
very obvious some are not so, they change location frequently, dont use too many girls in apt at one time. If u really
study the profiles over time u will pick up on it ,but how many guys will do that? Not many i venture most just take a
few numbers and take the fact she is Advertised as independent at face value. So there are alot of issues here not cut
and dried atall

Nothing is cut and dried at the moment Ber, it wasnt in England either. However, many ladies chose to sign a declaration of Independence and to display this on their individual sites. At the same time regulations on Internet advertising were brought in by the ASA. It would also mean ladies being far easier to target by the Shadow Tax Economy Unit, which seeks to bring those working in the black market out and force them to pay tax. It means that clients have to make there choices carefully, and will definitely impact on those working illegally. So sorry, but I think thats the right thing anyway.

If you like we can sit back and say nothing, or we can try and work something out.

[googleplex]

This is Ireland, home of the perpetual fuck up so its almost certain whatever bunch of clowns get power will make a ham fisted job of any change but the UK model would look the most sensible choice, but like I say this is not the UK. I am not sure how the worst option would work in reality anyway, police burst in on two people having, shock horror, sex ? my god the skys falling, is an escort not allowed to have sex outside of her ah hem... time and company providing job ? how could they prove anything if she and he said their eyes meet across a crowded bar and it was lust at first sight. Its not against the law to have a one night stand is it ?

[Violette]

This is Ireland, home of the perpetual fuck up so its almost certain whatever bunch of clowns get power will make a ham fisted job of any change but the UK model would look the most sensible choice, but like I say this is not the UK. I am not sure how the worst option would work in reality anyway, police burst in on two people having, shock horror, sex ? my god the skys falling, is an escort not allowed to have sex outside of her ah hem... time and company providing job ? how could they prove anything if she and he said their eyes meet across a crowded bar and it was lust at first sight. Its not against the law to have a one night stand is it ?

You are right this is Ireland, and if it can go wrong in other places it will go horribly wrong here, so the only thing we can do is try to minimize the damage and think of alternatives to hopefully get around any stupid laws they manage to try to stick us with.