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    Obviously no reform would be ideal but my real feeling is that the reforms are coming anyway. Our only real hope is to influence to how far the reforms are taken.

    Sweden outlawed the purchase of sex in 1999. This has reduced on street prostitution but the reality is there are still many ladies working indoors, isolated from society and at greater risk of harm.

    The UK brought in the Crime And Policing Bill in 2009. It criminalises the purchase of sex from anyone who had been controlled. (This equates to trafficked, not working for an agency etc) The control element is not something the client has to be aware of. It still remains legal to be an Independent escort.

    I think that the UK model is adequate. It means that clients must do all they can to check that the lady is here of her own free will, but it also means some protection for those who may not be. It also allows freedom of choice. Agencies will suffer, but perhaps that is only right.

    What do you think?
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    I think you are absolutely correct. Purchesing sex should be totally legal if consentual parties are involved, based on their own personal free will. I would love to see the UK act implemented here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensual Delights View Post
    I think you are absolutely correct. Purchesing sex should be totally legal if consentual parties are involved, based on their own personal free will. I would love to see the UK act implemented here.
    Well, I did a bit of research last night. The Turn Off the Red Light Alliance are quoting UK law also, on their site. It may be that we need to push for a different model, judging by the things I have been researching there is no chance that there will be no reform at all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucy chambers View Post
    Obviously no reform would be ideal but my real feeling is that the reforms are coming anyway. Our only real hope is to influence to how far the reforms are taken.

    Sweden outlawed the purchase of sex in 1999. This has reduced on street prostitution but the reality is there are still many ladies working indoors, isolated from society and at greater risk of harm.

    The UK brought in the Crime And Policing Bill in 2009. It criminalises the purchase of sex from anyone who had been controlled. (This equates to trafficked, not working for an agency etc) The control element is not something the client has to be aware of. It still remains legal to be an Independent escort.

    I think that the UK model is adequate. It means that clients must do all they can to check that the lady is here of her own free will, but it also means some protection for those who may not be. It also allows freedom of choice. Agencies will suffer, but perhaps that is only right.

    What do you think?
    Makes perfect sense, I for one operate on the UK model at the moment anyway.
    I do not use agencies and if I thought for one second there was any controlling element to my visit with a girl I would be out of there and reporting it.
    Its a happy medium.

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    As you say Lucy we need to acknowledge that there is going to be a reform, and go about shaping how that reform will best benefit us. At the end of the day most clients just want to have a good shag and get on with life. The current draconian proposals would have detrimental consequences on their lives, if they were arrested for purchasing the services of an escort. As enterprising business women we will find ways to counter act what ever in placed in effect. But at the end of the day we are a soft issue being waved around to give the impression 'action is being taken'. The government fucked up royally and have landed the country in a financial bog of no mean order, so since finances is off the books as an issue, sex is on. The point now is to take the bite out of any thing that will bite us in the bum later on down the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violette View Post
    As you say Lucy we need to acknowledge that there is going to be a reform, and go about shaping how that reform will best benefit us. At the end of the day most clients just want to have a good shag and get on with life. The current draconian proposals would have detrimental consequences on their lives, if they were arrested for purchasing the services of an escort. As enterprising business women we will find ways to counter act what ever in placed in effect. But at the end of the day we are a soft issue being waved around to give the impression 'action is being taken'. The government fucked up royally and have landed the country in a financial bog of no mean order, so since finances is off the books as an issue, sex is on. The point now is to take the bite out of any thing that will bite us in the bum later on down the road.

    Fancy forming a union? Because I have serious doubt that anyone will listen to campaigns led by those who are seen as profiting from sex work. So that leaves...the sex workers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucy chambers View Post
    Fancy forming a union? Because I have serious doubt that anyone will listen to campaigns led by those who are seen as profiting from sex work. So that leaves...the sex workers.
    We may have to! The Irish Sex Workers Union. Ok Lucy you start writing the charter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violette View Post
    We may have to! The Irish Sex Workers Union. Ok Lucy you start writing the charter.
    I am serious tbh. We are probably the safest ones to try and do it as we are paying tax and we arent from here..

    ..and if we don't, someone like Ruhama will be doing the talking for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucy chambers View Post
    So that leaves...the sex workers.
    And those of us who are shagging the sex workers, although I doubt the public has a higher opinion of us than of those who are profiting from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gordo View Post
    And those of us who are shagging the sex workers, although I doubt the public has a higher opinion of us than of those who are profiting from you.
    It doesn't have to be an exclusive union

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