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    I am just watching live pictures from Cairo and protesters against Mubarak ,
    Helicopters and fighterjets started to fly and circle over the protesters , this pictures are very unsetteling and disturbing !
    I start to fear now that the army responds with violence to the protests very soon .
    What is your opinion about it and how does it make you feel ?
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    He cant use them, if he does he is history, worlds changed, you can bring out the heavy stuff but you use it you are finished. Only place that can do that now would be China or some backwater small dictator. Egypt is a mayor state and pivotal not just geographically but politically. He uses helicopters on his own people he's finished with Obama and he will have to cut him loose and back the protestors, Obama to Mubarak is like Gorbachov to the last East German leader, when they cut you loose you are finished and Obama could not stand by him if he uses that kind of hardware on his people, not when the hardware has made in the good old U S of A stamped on it.

    This is the final play for Mubarak, he's going to have to use them or dont, either way he lose's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweethomes View Post
    I am just watching live pictures from Cairo and protesters against Mubarak ,
    Helicopters and fighterjets started to fly and circle over the protesters , this pictures are very unsetteling and disturbing !
    I start to fear now that the army responds with violence to the protests very soon .
    What is your opinion about it and how does it make you feel ?
    I finding it all very upsetting too Sweethomes. While I have no connections with Egypt, I really feel for the people there. While a regime change seems inevitable now, the political powers seem determined to stay on. I fear there will be more lives lost.

    There is also the concern of who will take over if Mubarak goes. There doesn't appear to be any clear opposition leadership at the present. The country could fall into complete anarchy or into the hands of Islamic militants. I think it will eventually fall into the hands of the military. Unfortunately, military rule has a very poor record worldwide.
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    I agree with you , but common sense I dont expect from a dictator standing with the back to the wall . Erich Honecker also gave the order to shoot at the protesters in GDR , luckily the army and police refused ! Maybee I am emotionaly blinded , hopefully you are right . Thank you for your opinion .
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    There is also the concern of who will take over if Mubarak goes
    There doesn't appear to be any clear opposition leadership
    Thats another worry , I hope the egypt people dont fall from one extreme to another !
    I fear there will be more lives lost
    I fear the same and hope it will not come to this , against all odds !
    Thank you for your opinon .
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    Yes, it's all really kicking off down there. I'm wary of what sort of a society Egypt will become - if it becomes dominated by militant Islam, we can scratch off seven thousand years of history just like that.

    Yesterday, the army deployed to protect the Museum of Antiquities in Cairo from thieves who were going to loot these priceless artifacts of human history. When the Americans "liberated" Baghdad, over three quarters of the contents of their national musems were looted by locals, and only a tiny fraction of these artifacts have been recovered from the black market. Utterly priceless artifacts from ancient Sumer, Babylon, and Persia just disappeared.

    Whatever Egyptian society is evolving into, I hope it remains secular and keeps welcoming foreigners to their amazing country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweethomes View Post
    I agree with you , but common sense I dont expect from a dictator standing with the back to the wall . Erich Honecker also gave the order to shoot at the protesters in GDR , luckily the army and police refused ! Maybee I am emotionaly blinded , hopefully you are right . Thank you for your opinion .
    Even if Honecker (thank you as I could not remember his name) had gotten his army to fire, it would have been terrible for those killed but he still was finished, Gorbachov had pulled the plug and the writing was on the wall, the world had changed and Honecker did not see it.

    Mubarak is not your average dictator, he is one with US backing up to now, he could use troops to fire with ak 47's and as horrible as it sounds the way the world works he probably would get away with that but not with fighters and helicoptors.

    The US wants him in powerm they do not want to risk extremists getting some hold on power in such an important country, it borders Isreal, can you imagine what they are thinking right now, they dont want him gone either as he is a stable leader in a region that everyone hates them but if we see rockets fired from the sky on unarmed people from US made helicoptors that changes everything and Obama as the leader of the free world and as someone with an eye to getting re elected just can no longer support him in any way.

    Mubarak is also a big part of the peace process, how can he sit at that table if his country in under curfew and killed his own people with figthers.

    Trust me, he is a dead man walking, even if his army stamps out all this, the world will close its doors to Egypt and become like Libya was for last 30 years. He still can hold on to power but to do that he has to lose the world and his eye on history as being a peacemaker with Isreal.

    All the big boys want him to stay, he is the safer bet, he falls and it 1989 all over again only this time in the sand and the US would prefer that not happen as they would fear extremists getting voted into power and if they do and its a country bordering Isreal well them democracy goes out the window. The difference is the US wanted 1989 to happen, they do not want the same thing in the middle east.
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    There seems to be a lot of trouble across north africa,tunisia,sudan,even though there is always trouble there even more so now that the country is splitting in two and there is also trouble beginning to creep into jordan but i think a lot of these countries are fed up of a corrupt almost dictatorial leadership so hopefully the people will win out in the end and get rid of Mubarak.Also heard that email,internet and any other forms of communication have been shut down to the outside world by his government.He has too much power and this was evident when he sacked his whole cabinet the other day and put in his own ministers....I was there a few years back myself,amazing place to see but there was a lot of poverty on the streets..
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    but look on the bright side, if we get another 1989 in the middleeast look as all the exotic escorts we'll have from places they are at the moment not allowed to leave. Imagine if 1989 did not happen and all these lovely east europeans still locked away behind the iron curtain ?

    No Nikky and Eve, no Jessica Jessy, no Anna no Agniezka and lots of others, all top class and all here because of 1989 how would the industry here be if people did not risk blood for freedom ? its an interesting question. The review leader board would be a lot different for a start.

    If nothing else clients think with your mickeys and demand your td's take action on Egypt.
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    I think thats not their first thought right now and dont let me start on easteuropean escorts .
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