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    Quote Originally Posted by lovethegirls View Post
    They have families and surely that comes first.
    Indeed they may have so the responsible thing would be to go to work so that they may support them
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    Quote Originally Posted by ber View Post
    Well even with the increased hours this is not even bringing them into line with most other airlines and as regards the change in start times they wont just turn up for work but will be
    notified at least 3 hrs prior to the start time. The child care thing is just blowing smoke as at
    the moment there are plenty of child care providers that would be prepared to be flexible.
    Its not as if they were a nine to five job already, and im sure they have already agreed with
    child care that if they were delayed which can easily happen them with weather/miss slot etc
    that the children wont be turfed out on the street. There was no prob with child care when they were getting an extra 12 hrs lay over time on trans atlantic flights, no rush home then
    So if you were to catch a flight with them , but 3 hrs before you left they called to say your flight wont actually be leaving as scheduled . How pissed off would you be that your airline could do that to you .
    Do you think that creches would have no problem with little johnny not being picked up at 5 pm , but instead 8 or later .
    As for the long haul flights , i doubt there would be any major effect on family life as it would be arranged in advance , so the extra rest time crew were allowed wouldn't have as drastic effect as the current demands the airline is seeking . Cabin crew on multiple short hop trips would be majorly put out , which is in my opinion , the crux of the matter for the workers .
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    united we stand divided we fall, more workers should be prepared to stand up and protect there pay and condition dont forget that people before you fought for what you have now only for the bosses to bullshit you into taken the conditions away like fcuk a would.

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    I've always wanted to smell the seat them lovely air stewardesses sat upon.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by releasetherat View Post
    united we stand divided we fall, more workers should be prepared to stand up and protect there pay and condition dont forget that people before you fought for what you have now only for the bosses to bullshit you into taken the conditions away like fcuk a would.
    Im so with you on that one. Proud to be socialist and proud to have struck myself to fight pay and conditions in previous jobs. I would always offer solidarity to those who deserve it and have the balls to stand up and fight for whats right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by releasetherat View Post
    united we stand divided we fall, more workers should be prepared to stand up and protect there pay and condition dont forget that people before you fought for what you have now only for the bosses to bullshit you into taken the conditions away like fcuk a would.
    Do you not think the world has changed ? Much bigger open markets and competition these days means that dinosaur organisations like AL are no longer in a position to just amble along in an inefficient manner and not be competitive. That means they've to restructure and reorganise. Part of that is the agreed new arrangements with unions and staff.

    So if unions and staff can't take some pain, then the next logical step is that AL goes bust and nobody has a job.

    And now a straight up question. Which do you think is more painful ..... being asked to work under different conditions or not have a job at all ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rimmerguy View Post
    So if you were to catch a flight with them , but 3 hrs before you left they called to say your flight wont actually be leaving as scheduled . How pissed off would you be that your airline could do that to you .
    Do you think that creches would have no problem with little johnny not being picked up at 5 pm , but instead 8 or later .
    As for the long haul flights , i doubt there would be any major effect on family life as it would be arranged in advance , so the extra rest time crew were allowed wouldn't have as drastic effect as the current demands the airline is seeking . Cabin crew on multiple short hop trips would be majorly put out , which is in my opinion , the crux of the matter for the workers .
    First off when applying for the job by its very nature it was always going to require certain
    flexibility under new or old work conditions , secondly i doubth they would be using conventional creches but childminders as creches tend to open more to accomodate regular
    working hrs and regardless of rosters they would often not finish till late anyway.
    Im also fairly sure this will happen now and again and not on a regular basis.
    The point of the 3 hr delay in the flight is a totally different argument, im a customer
    buying a service they are employees providing one.Im parting with cash they are
    recieving it. The bottom line is that Aer Lingus was a shambles driven by union power
    and cronyism while it was a state body, now there is a guy there who is trying to sort
    it out,time to wake up and smell the coffee for the employees the party is over
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    Quote Originally Posted by vampirejackie View Post
    Im so with you on that one. Proud to be socialist and proud to have struck myself to fight pay and conditions in previous jobs. I would always offer solidarity to those who deserve it and have the balls to stand up and fight for whats right.
    Well i really am afraid socialism has a fairly poor track record
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    Quote Originally Posted by ber View Post
    Well i really am afraid socialism has a fairly poor track record
    Much better than bullying and capatalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vampirejackie View Post
    Im so with you on that one. Proud to be socialist and proud to have struck myself to fight pay and conditions in previous jobs. I would always offer solidarity to those who deserve it and have the balls to stand up and fight for whats right.
    Does AL as an employer deserve no solidarity for it's survival ?

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