OWO: HPV Virus and link to throat and mouth cancer

[aliciasexy]

I agree that owo and cim can be dangerous,because of that i never never did CIM with nobody .
About O W O ,is the same and i advice to use the condon always

[westernpunter]

I think Aliciasexy has the right attitude. . .

if you put your stick into too many ports, you'll get a virus, same is true for people.

Dip it into lots of different holes, You'll get a virus.

Keep it covered . Simple

[CoolJay]

well thats me fucked and 50 percent of u girls cos ive splattered my load over half of munster

haha .

[alexanda]

Dont think the irish men started asking for owo,cim,a....

Girls!!!! The most important it is you!!

Are things money cant buy!

[Morpheus]

I saw this on another website. I think it is a cause for concern, and one that is not taken seriously enough:
"Hi Guys,
Was just wondering what are your feelings regarding the safety of OWO, and unprotected reverse oral (no dental dam used)?
I have been reading recently about the HPV virus, particularly a very nasty strain of it called HPV-16 which has been linked to mouth and throat cancer. Apparently, unprotected oral sex with more than four partners increases your risk significantly, as does consuming alcohol and tobacco.
Apparently the HPV virus is present in about 80% of the population, and is known already to be the cause of cervical cancer. However, a recent study from Sweden has shown a clear link between oral sex and the transmission of this virus. This is incredibly disturbing, as I would estimate up to 90% of WG's provide OWO, and unprotected reverse oral.
I recently asked a girl why she provided OWO when it was clearly risky,and she told me that if she did not then she just wouldn't make any money as that is what men want(!) The risk is certainly highest for girls giving OWO to men, and it really saddened me that this girl felt compelled to offer a service she clearly wasn't comfortable with due to the fact that many guys do not stop to consider their own health...
To my knowledge, there are no UK sexual health clinics that offer testing for oral/ or genital HPV, although it is available in the States.
If anyone knows of anywhere in the UK where you can get it done, then please post details here.
The following articles make for worrying reading:

http://www.reuters.c...E62P01Q20100326

http://std.about.com...voralcancer.htm "

I honestly think the fears are overplayed. Mouth and throat cancer are extremely rare. The main link for HPV and cancer is with cervical cancer - through unprotected sexual intercourse. Scientists often get a little too full of themselves and exagerate findings.

I'm in the medical field myself, and have to wade thorough constant study publications about association and disease. My take is that the association here is a weak one. By contrast - smoking has the strongest association with many different cancers, and is certainly a far greater danger than unprotected oral sex.

[Shirley Joy]

I saw this on another website. I think it is a cause for concern, and one that is not taken seriously enough:
"Hi Guys,
Was just wondering what are your feelings regarding the safety of OWO, and unprotected reverse oral (no dental dam used)?
I have been reading recently about the HPV virus, particularly a very nasty strain of it called HPV-16 which has been linked to mouth and throat cancer. Apparently, unprotected oral sex with more than four partners increases your risk significantly, as does consuming alcohol and tobacco.
Apparently the HPV virus is present in about 80% of the population, and is known already to be the cause of cervical cancer. However, a recent study from Sweden has shown a clear link between oral sex and the transmission of this virus. This is incredibly disturbing, as I would estimate up to 90% of WG's provide OWO, and unprotected reverse oral.
I recently asked a girl why she provided OWO when it was clearly risky,and she told me that if she did not then she just wouldn't make any money as that is what men want(!) The risk is certainly highest for girls giving OWO to men, and it really saddened me that this girl felt compelled to offer a service she clearly wasn't comfortable with due to the fact that many guys do not stop to consider their own health...
To my knowledge, there are no UK sexual health clinics that offer testing for oral/ or genital HPV, although it is available in the States.
If anyone knows of anywhere in the UK where you can get it done, then please post details here.
The following articles make for worrying reading:

http://www.reuters.c...E62P01Q20100326

http://std.about.com...voralcancer.htm "

I just want to thank you for bringing this issue..since more and more punt are asking for cim,they should really know what involves,and think twice because when an escort will do that it's because she done that before in many other ocasions.. check this out: --> Oral Sex and STDs – Information About Oral Sex and STDs

[D11111]

Reading that article posted by Shirley. I presume using condoms makes oral etc 100% safe presuming they dont tear ?

[Lincoln]

I honestly think the fears are overplayed. Mouth and throat cancer are extremely rare. The main link for HPV and cancer is with cervical cancer - through unprotected sexual intercourse. Scientists often get a little too full of themselves and exagerate findings.

I'm in the medical field myself, and have to wade thorough constant study publications about association and disease. My take is that the association here is a weak one. By contrast - smoking has the strongest association with many different cancers, and is certainly a far greater danger than unprotected oral sex.

I tend to agree with Morpheus here, unprotected vaginal sex is by far the most high risk behaviour for increasing risk of developing cervical cancer and since protection is used at all times then this is a largely moot point. The condom may have saliva present due to covered oral prior to vaginal sex so there may be an associated infection risk here. In the case of reverse oral most girls insist on clitoral stimulation only which does have an impact on infection risk (that is to say hopefully a reduction).

The bottom line here is basic hygiene and good cleaning practices after indulging in these activities will help enormously. Needless to remark no girl should feel coerced or pressurized into taking an unsheath penis into her mouth, is she provides OWO it should be on a well informed and calculated basis.

In general terms it is good to discuss these items. Good post.

[D11111]

Continuing the protected sex chat, has anyone used dental dams , and do the girls hate them as they may inhibit sensitivity ? Or do you care about your own stimulation once the money is pocketed, in fairness

[AmeliaVIP]

I honestly think the fears are overplayed. Mouth and throat cancer are extremely rare. The main link for HPV and cancer is with cervical cancer - through unprotected sexual intercourse. Scientists often get a little too full of themselves and exagerate findings.

I'm in the medical field myself, and have to wade thorough constant study publications about association and disease. My take is that the association here is a weak one. By contrast - smoking has the strongest association with many different cancers, and is certainly a far greater danger than unprotected oral sex.

Are you a doctor then, and do you have some firm medical evidence that you could post here to prove to us that these fears are indeed "overplayed"? If you watch the documentary "Dangerous Practices" which was aired on BBC3 two nights ago, and to which Pat has posted a link, it would certainly appear that a top HPV related cancer specialist from Cambridge University would disagree with you. It is precisely that kind of attitude that is responsible for the increase in HPV related cancers. There clearly IS a risk, otherwise why have the UK government introduced a national HPV vaccination programme for girls aged 12-13?? I hardly think they'd bother to spend all that money if this were all just a storm in a teacup, do you? What I think is very wrong is that they are not also vaccinating boys of the same age, but I guess the cost of that would just be astronomical. HPV related throat cancers are, after all, more commonly diagnosed in men than in women. Bottom line: If you play with fire enough times you will eventually get burned. Why take the risk? I agree with the HPV specialist's comment about unprotected oral sex in the documentary: "PREGNANT IS ABOUT THE ONLY THING YOU CAN'T GET".