Why are more and more threads simply disappearing?????

[hornylimerick]

Fuck speeders they're cunts.

This is exactly what I'm talking about! Ppl should get the opportunity to voice their opinions on a subject

I might not agree with them but I still respect their opinions

[lonely]

Why not give ppl the opportunity to to object to posts they are offended by instead of simply deleting them "just in case"!

I mean leave ppl to speak for themselves instead if speaking for them. I hate when ppl feel as if it's their duty to speak for others, just the way your speaking for Jackie now... Why do ppl feel the need to speak for others??

I've lost a loved one on the roads, this doesn't mean I take offence at ppl talking about driving fast, ppl are entitled to their opinions and views after all..... I'm sure if Jackie voiced her distaste for the thread ppl would have both agreed and disagreed, which could have led to some interesting comments instead of keeping issues under the rug.

Thing that upset ppl should be talked about, that's how peoples opinions get changed, no discussion means that peoples views generally stay the same as do their actions

someone did voice their disapproval of the thread and pointed out it was promoting something that was an illegal activity

[vampirejackie]

I did post on the thread intiially, about my thoughts, but received several complaints about it and the promotions of these acts, so I took the judgement to delete it based on those comments.

[carlos marvado]

It may be the case that if E-I left threads up glorifying speeding, or drink-driving, or illegal drugs etc., that the site could be perceived as condoning such activities. The site already bans the advertising of or requests for certain unsafe sex practises and the advertising of pharmaceutical products, or the promotion of certain activities such as underage sex, so I can't see any conflict in either the promotion of or glorification of certain other things not being in conformity with the ethos of the site.

Given that the website is based in the UK, where the advertising of sexual services is legal, it's a bit of a red herring to throw illegality on the part of E-I into the debate.

[bedridden]

I respect the prerogative of the site to choose its policy - it's up to me then whether I take it or leave it.
But it's just disappointing that it chooses to be so restrictive.
I would have hoped this site, of all, given its nature, would have been more open-minded to discussions of these sorts.
Real event, real activities were being discussed, not just fanciful notions.
By deleting the thread, the reality is being censored, which doesn't really achieve much.

[nicegirlsarenice]

I respect the prerogative of the site to choose its policy - it's up to me then whether I take it or leave it.
But it's just disappointing that it chooses to be so restrictive.
I would have hoped this site, of all, given its nature, would have been more open-minded to discussions of these sorts.
Real event, real activities were being discussed, not just fanciful notions.
By deleting the thread, the reality is being censored, which doesn't really achieve much.

It's not "so restrictive" by shutting down that type of illegal activity. In fact E-I is obliged by law not to host people discussing illegal activity. In fact E-I and any of us are technically also required to report it to the gardai. E-I isn't censoring anything, you can have a discussion about speeding if you wish, but can't brag about how you went of assaulting people and glorify it.

Would you think that E-I should leave up posts condoning murdering homeless people? What about promoting and bragging about child or spousal abuse, do you think E-I should leave up that type of topic? This guy was talking about hitting the "magic 200mph", not 100mph... which would still be illegal.

It's ridiculous that people are arguing that "shur isn't E-I involved in nefarious and immoral and illegal activities anyway"... it is NOT. People don't get killed from being on E-I. E-I doesn't break any laws that I know of.

I hate it when people try to lump prostitution in with all that nonsense. I try to take really good care of my health and would never engage in immoral or dangerous behaviour.

There are no genuine topics being deleted that I'm aware of, this thread talked about being involved in very dangeous and clearly criminal activity and so was shut down and had to be by law.

I would really hate it if genuine topics were being shut down but they weren't this time.

Once again: WTF?! Some people think E-I would condone or in some way tolerate extreme dangerous behaviour that could take life and limb just because it's an escort website???? That's insulting, and would only make sense if you secretly took a sort of Ruhama view of escorting.

[An don]

and would never engage in immoral or dangerous behaviour

Well done you Sir.

[bedridden]

It's not "so restrictive" by shutting down that type of illegal activity. In fact E-I is obliged by law not to host people discussing illegal activity. In fact E-I and any of us are technically also required to report it to the gardai. E-I isn't censoring anything, you can have a discussion about speeding if you wish, but can't brag about how you went of assaulting people and glorify it.

Would you think that E-I should leave up posts condoning murdering homeless people? What about promoting and bragging about child or spousal abuse, do you think E-I should leave up that type of topic? This guy was talking about hitting the "magic 200mph", not going 90mph... which would still be illegal.

It's ridiculous that people are arguing that "shur isn't E-I involved in nefarious and immoral and illegal activities anyway"... it is NOT. People don't get killed from being on E-I. E-I doesn't break any laws that I know of.

I hate it when people try to lump prostitution in with all that nonsense. I try to take really good care of my health and would never engage in immoral or dangerous behaviour.

There are no topics being deleted that I'm aware of, this thread talked about being involved in clear criminal activity and so was shut down.

I would hate it if genuine topics were being shut down.

If homeless people are being murdered, if children or spouses are being abused (which they are) - Yes - I want threads up where these topics can be discussed. Deleting the thread and carrying on as if it never happens does not achieve anything. If somebody posts bragging about those things, fair enough, report it to the authorities. But don't delete and try to keep everybody in the dark about what is really happening. In particular, child abuse by the clergy was not discussed openly for a long time. The result was a that the abuse continued long after it should have been dealt with.

I wasn't referring to EI as a immoral/illegal site - more a site where we are all adults here and should be able to discuss these things.

[carlos marvado]

I respect the prerogative of the site to choose its policy - it's up to me then whether I take it or leave it.
But it's just disappointing that it chooses to be so restrictive.
I would have hoped this site, of all, given its nature, would have been more open-minded to discussions of these sorts.
Real event, real activities were being discussed, not just fanciful notions.By deleting the thread, the reality is being censored, which doesn't really achieve much.

Is'nt that just the point though? This was'nt some abstract debate about the dangers of speeding or the morality of such actions, it was a number of members boasting about or glorifying their actions which not only involved breaking the law, but also saw them put their lives at risk and pose a serious danger to members of the public. Any speed freak who wants to get his/her thrills should book some time on a race track.

[carlos marvado]

If homeless people are being murdered, if children or spouses are being abused (which they are) - Yes - I want threads up where these topics can be discussed. Deleting the thread and carrying on as if it never happens does not achieve anything. If somebody posts bragging about those things, fair enough, report it to the authorities. But don't delete and try to keep everybody in the dark about what is really happening. In particular, child abuse by the clergy was not discussed openly for a long time. The result was a that the abuse continued long after it should have been dealt with.

I wasn't referring to EI as a immoral/illegal site - more a site where we are all adults here and should be able to discuss these things.

I don't believe that a thread discussing such issues would be deleted, but for example if somebody came on here and discussed his involvement in the abuse of children or sought to justify and encourage others to engage in paedophilia, then I believe that such a thread or post would have to be deleted.

There are enough people and organisations who would like to see this site closed down for advertising what they view as immoral/objectionable (yet legal) activities, without E-I being accused of giving a platform to those who would seek to promote or extol any illegal or criminal activity.